From: &= nbsp; &nbs= p; = John (Jack) R. Venrick [jacksranch@skynetbb.com]

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Subject: &nbs= p; &= nbsp; 24 Questions Why - To State of Washington DOE Changing Your Wa= ter Rights - NO CONFIDENCE - 5 Pu= blic Hearings w/ Feedback

Attachments: = &nb= sp; Reforming Washington's natural resource agencies - WDFW stakeholder ....eml (68.9 KB); FW_ MUST READ - Environmental Litigation and Attorneys Fees.eml (151 KB); FW_ _Conflict in our National Forests_.eml (3.= 40 MB); TheRuleofCoordination.pdf; Essentials of Panarchism.pdf; WashingtonStateHouseBill2591WATER.pdf; WADOEHillisRuleAmend.pdf; Sample Size-Tables web.xls

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----- Original Message -----

From: John (Jack) R. Venrick

To: AJack R. Venrick

Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 5:43 PM

Subject: 24 Questions Why - To State of Washington DOE Changing = Your Water Rights - NO CONFIDENCE - 5 Public Hearings Through Out the State of W= A

To: Washington Department of Ecology (DOE)

cc: Jefferson County, King County

bcc: Property Rights Groups, Puget Sound Media, Legal Fre= edom Foundations, Evergreen Property Rights Center, Friends, Supreme Court, State Governor's Office, Washington State House, Senate, S= tate AG

Table of Attachments - Note all attachments and this letter and more may be found at - http://www.freedomforallseasons.org/FreedomFromEndangeredSpeci= esMythomania.asp

A. Essentials of Panarchism (attached - MUST READ AND/OR PRINT)

B. Washington Hillis Rule (attached)

C. Washington State HB 2591 - Concerning the Act for Processing Water Right Permits (attached)

D. The Rule of Coordination (attached)

E. Required Sample Size (attached)

F. Must Read Environmental Litigation and Attorneys Fees

G. Conflict in our National Forests

H. Reforming Washington's Natural Resource Agencies..

I have grave concerns regarding a number of glaring short comings in your 5 public hearings including conflict of interest and lack of any statistical significance processes all of whi= ch are wrapped up in the political appearence of staged public heari= ngs.

The above photo of a railroad track which was discontinue= d by the Copper River and Northwestern Railway in Alaska, is a visual example of what the State of Washington municipal corporations and its cereal departments have become, in my experience.

Please read/print attachment A for an excellent recap of = the philosophy of consent in a free country. This sets the theme herein.= &nb= sp;

Here are my questions to DOE and all State of Washington Natur= al Resource Agencies.

1. Washin= gton state HB 2591(Processing Water Rights Permits) is budgeted to generate= $90 million of additional revenue over the next nine years, see attached. Water like land, homes, vehicles and family businesses are all about natural born rights NOT revenue and net worth to your growing network of illegitimate municipal corporations. The municipal corporation of the State of Washington has revenues exceeding= 62 billion annually with a net worth of 132 billion and growing. &nb= sp;

Why is it necessary then to create fees and permits for the processing of basic rights which the state Citizens already own and have paid for ma= ny times over while the state and its municipal corporations have mo= re than sufficient revenue and assets to cover? <= /o:p>

Are you aware that no taxes, permits, fines, fees, licens= es, interest or regulation of any kind can be placed upon the natural born state Citizen especially for the use of basic natural resources w= hich they did not directly contract and which they already own. =

Are you aware the natural born state Citizens are not sou= rces of revenue for government or any of its agencies in a true and honest Constitutional Republic, if not why?

Are you aware that all of your services must be funded by ONLY legitimate sources of revenue, i.e. a uniform indirect taxes on corporations, incoming customs duties, the sale and lease of resources= on state lands and the printing of value based coins and currency. = All else is off limits by the highest founding and fundamental laws of the land, if not why?

Are you aware you are stacking illegitimate and fraudulent taxes, fees, fines, permits, licensing, etc onto the sovereign and free natural born who never asked for such entanglements= you are creating, if not why?

Are you and aware the State of Washington and DOE and all= of its agencies have far exceeded their limited authority = and jurisdiction, if not why?

2. The state and its municipal corporation agencies including the Department of Ecology are operating under the illusion of "consent". The combination of conflict of interest, no separation of powers in the State, a fraudulent constitut= ion and resulting corrupted revised codes, have lead to an avalanche of trespass and war upon some 70 clearly protected rights of the natur= al born Citizens.

By what founding and fundamental charters have DOE b= een created and given such authority and jurisdiction keeping in mind both Houses were never originally given such power nor did the natural born individually give this such authority and power away from their own sovereign?

3. Please refer to WA DOE Hillis Rule Amendment attached which exclaims 5 public hearings across the state over 8 days from August 10 through 18, 2010 with "the formal comment period ending September 1, 2010" and an adoption of November 19, 2010. This appears to be a political charade with a predetermined agenda.&nb= sp;DOE is pretending to collect feedback from 5 public hearings over 8 days to cov= er themselves. This process of data gathering, as well as the expected number who will show up will most likely be statistical insignificant, i.e. statistical nonsense not representative of the communit= y or the state. The process of so call "public hearings" are skewed by DOE with overwhelming bias including the compression of= the data gathering period.

Is the DOE cooperating with any of the worldwide movements involved in the ICLEI global/local governments for sustainability?=

4. In the private sector, a study of this magnitude would require public input over a much longer time to develop extensive interviews and documentation not 8 days. In ot= her words, your process appears to be intentionally designed to give you what y= ou want regardless of what the "public hearings" bring out. King County plays this same shell game too, as do all the cities, counties and states in the union.

Is the State of Washington Departme= nt of Ecology involved with, communicating with or are complicit with any= of the following groups or agendas: Agenda 21, The UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, The UN convention on Biological Diversit= y, the UN Convention to Combat Desertification, the Habitat Agenda, the M= illennium Development Goals, the Johannesburg Plan of Implementation, Municipal Finance Officers Assoc., International City Managers Assoc., Governmen= tal Research Assoc., American Municipal Assoc. American Legislators Assoc., American Public Welfare Assoc., Public Admin. Clearing House, Council = of State Governments, United States Conference of Mayors, National Assoc.= of Housing Officials, American Society of Municipal Engineers, Internatio= nal Assoc. of Public Works Officials, National Assoc. of Tax Assessing Off= icers, National Association of Planning Officials, Washington Assoc. of Citie= s, Futurewise/1000 Friends of Washington, The Nature Conservancy, Natural Wildlife Resource Council, Sierra Club or any environmental organizati= on in the State of Washington or United States Inc.?=

5. Please refer to "Sample Size Tables" attached. The State of Washington population is approximately 6.7 million. You will need a sample size of some 663 to 16,500 to give you a confidence level of 99% with a margin of error ranging from 5% to 1%, respectively. And this would only represent the entire state. Chances are, you will not even reach the minimum sampling required in total attendance alone, let alo= ne in actual verifiable eye to eye recorded feedback vs. staged standing verbal input. Then you would need to do this for each of the applicable geographic and political regions of the state where this study applies, bec= ause the geography of the state sets an entirely different statistical and consciousness behavior from the whole.

Are you aware your Public Hearings are set up such as to = NOT gather a statistical significant sample regarding how the natural born State Citizens feel state wide or locally, if not why?=

6. Why do all the municipal corporations use this same "public hearing" ruse of gathering insignificant amount/detail of data through a political ceremony?

Your process for gathering this information is extremely conflicting and biased. The time you have allotted to gather feedback is only a ceremony at an environmental masquerade party. The foxes are holding the hearings and counting the chickens. True and honest requirements are gathered independently with= out bias before agendas are set.

Are you aware,you have built in a conflict of interest role to your "Public Hearings", if not why?

7. I have spelled out some action items below several ti= mes to my own local senators and representatives on other property rights takings applicable here. All to no avail of course. (see "Action Items" below)

Have my Senators and Representatives communicated my concerns to you a= bout these matters below, if not why?

8. The entire infrastructure including the processes used by the municipal corporations a= nd their respective departments are based on lies. The basic assumptions used by government and their applicable nongovernment supporting groups are more often selective agendas not based in hard science.

Is DOE management and their employees aware mos= t of its funding sources are based on tyrannical debt and taxes which cannot be placed on the natural born State Citizens, if not why?

Is DOE aware that its processes are corrupted a= nd THEIR public hearings appear to be more like tribunals vs. face to face feedback, if not why?

9. I have seen this same scenario many times with o= ther green takings. Much if not all your work appears to be self serving. It appears you are basing your fundamentals on political science NOT independent verified science, e.g. "critical areas, wetlands, alternative energy, man caused global warmi= ng, sustainable development", ad nausea. These are all political man made lies, created for revenue for the municipal corporations and their benefactors.

Are all the DOE employees aware the we live in a Constitutional Republic NOT a democracy whereby individual free choice= is supreme not majority rule or minority non government groups, even above the lies, if not why?

Are the DOE employees and management aware of = the following, if not why?

State of Wa= shington RCW 42.30.010 Legislative declaration

The legislature finds and declares th= at all public commissions, boards, councils, committees, subcommittees, departments, divisions, offices, and all other public agencies of th= is state and subdivisions thereof exist to aid in the conduct of the people's business. It is the intent of this chapter that their actio= ns be taken openly and that their deliberations be conducted openly.

The people of this state do not yield their sovereignty to the agencies which serve them. The people, in delegating authority, do not give their public servants the right to decide what is good for the people to know and what is not good for = them to know. The people insist on remaining informed so that they may re= tain control over the instruments they have created.<= u>

Have you made all DOE employees and management aware= of their commitment to ethics -

http://www.mrsc.org/Publications/mrnews/articles/ethicsin= governmentMar06.aspx

10. Is DOE management and their employees aware of the distinct difference between cooperating and coordination and are you truly coordinating with all local governments and property owners face to face on schedules they can meet, or= are you "cooping our private and public property, if not why?<= span style=3D'mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>

http://www.america= nstewards.us/news-publications/coordination-works/coordination-works-previo= us-articles/coordworks-1=

Also see attached PDF "The Rule of Coordination"

11. Are you aware of the reforming of the State of Washi= ngton natural resource agencies and what is DOE plans to reform itself, if not why?

Please see attached email titled "Reforming Washingt= on's natural resource agencies...."

Do you understand your agencies are extremely biased toward a green agenda vs. totally neutral, if not why?. =

Do you recognize DOE and the STATE and non government agencies have intentionally excluded the property owners from which you are taking land, homes, resources along with trespass and privacy, if not why? =

12. Are you aw= are of environmental extreme groups activism is consuming our own private and public property fraudulently and many if not all are funded by out of state, mainly east coast green extreme groups, if not why?

Please see email attached above entitled "Must Read - Environmental Litigation and Attorneys

What are your plans to stop this fraudulent taking of our property in the State of Washington?

13. Is the DOE or the State, like the USFS, involved in = any national or global agendas or actions to "manage" private propert= y, private water supplies, private homes, private vehicles, private roads?&nbs= p;

See email attached entitled "Conflict in our National Forest".

14. Does the DOE or the State impose any boundaries or limits on their self perceived authority or jurisdiction, if not why?

15. Have all DOE management and employees been informed = that so called "man caused" global warming is a lie, if not why?<= /span>

Have all DOE employees been instructed that mans contribution to CO2 is only .117% of the natural = CO2?=

http://www.freedomforallseasons.org/FreedomFromManCau= sedGlobalWarmingMyths.dwt.asp=

16. Have all DOE management and employees been informed that so called "alternative energy" is a political agenda lie, if not why?

All alternative energy sources are not economically viable nor can they even come close to carrying commercial power demands=

"Alternative energy" products must be manu= factured with fossil fuel and nuclear power because of the high current demands= by that industry.

http://www.freedomforallseasons.org/FreedomFromAlternative= EnergyMyths.dwt.asp=

17. Have = all DOE management and employees been informed the so called "Endange= red Species Act" is based on junk agenda lies, if not why?

Extinction intensity varies extremely A= ND naturally over millenniums.

http://www.freedomforallseasons.org/FreedomFromEndangered= SpeciesMythomania.asp=

18. Have all DOE management and employees been informed of the devastating takings on private and public property involved in Agenda = 21 and Sustainable Development which is creating much of the infrastructure and takings of DOE, if not why?

Has all DOE been informed SD is not necessary nor economical but is an orchestration of evil by elite controlling national and global groups, if not why?=

http://www.freedomforallseasons.org/FreedomFromRuralCleansingNe= w.dwt.asp=

19. Have all DOE management and employees been informed of the war on priv= ate and public property by their own government and agency, if not why?<= /span>

http://www.freedomforallseasons.org/EmbattledPropertyOwnerStori= esNew.asp=

20. Have = all DOE management and employees been instructed that so called "critical areas" are legal and environmental fiction, if not why?

Have all DOE been told that "critical areas&quo= t; are easily solved and treated no different in commercial development projects but are not allowed in private developments. =

http://www.freedomforallseasons.org/FreedomFromCritical= AreaOrdinanceMythsNew.asp=

21. Have all DOE management and employees been educated = on the strict limitations of a Constitutional Republic and that we do NOT live= in a majority rule Democracy and that the House and the Senate may not do anything they wish even with so called "majority" or "minority" or special interest groups?

http://www.freedomforallseasons.org/ConstitutionThatNeverWasNew.asp<= /a>=

http://= www.freedomforallseasons.org/CommonLaw.dwt.asp=

The State of Washington Constitution That Never Was - Com= ing Soon<= o:p>

22. Have all D= OE management and employees been instructed as to the supreme laws of the land, i.e. The Laws of Nature and Nature's God, the Declaration of Independence a= nd the spirit and success of the first American Revolution, if not why?=

http://www.freedomforallseasons.org/NaturalLawAndNaturalRights.asp=

http://www.freedomforallseasons.org/UnalienableRightsNew.dwt.asp=

23. Have all DOE management and employees been instructed much of the revenue of the State of Washington including DOE comes from illegitimate and fraudulent sources never allowed by the higher founding and fundamental law= s of the land in America, if not why?

http://www.freedomforallseasons.org/FreedomFromTaxesNew.dwt.asp=

http://www.freedomforallseasons.org/FreedomFromUnFederalUnR= eserveNew.dwt.asp=

24. Have all D= OE management and all of its employees talked to the representing body of rural property owners in the State of Washington via their growing network of property rights groups, if not why?

I look forward to hearing from you on all these questions in detail and will forward them to hundreds of other eager property owners as well as to the State of Washington House and Senate and Supreme Court and other states monitoring your takings. I understand these questions must be entered into official records and responded too.

Thank you for y= our time on these critical questions.

Sincerely,

John (Jack) R. Venrick

Enumclaw, Washington

www.freedomfor= allseasons.org

Montana State University

BSEE/MSAS

The Boeing Company

30 Years Service Retired

Systems Engineering

Standards Engineering

Statistical Applications

"And because governments today legitimate and encourage contentious struggles for domination where one group's gains is another gro= up's loss, and where the struggles absorb more and more resources and divert ene= rgy from productive to unproductive uses."<= o:p>

Essentials of Panarchism (attached)<= o:p>

"He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hith= er swarms of officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.<= o:p>

He has made judges dependent on his will alone, for the tenure= of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries."<= o:p>

Excerpts from the Declaration of Independence<= o:p>

Extracted From a Prior Email to my senators and representative= s:

This is an extract below from the above email. All these green takings have the same profile of how they work, i.e. largely hidden f= rom the rural property owners for years until they announce a quick public ceremony or just a small ad in the local paper and then they ignore what everyone says.

We need to make it more difficult for them to take anything.&n= bsp; Currently it is just to easy for the cities, counties and state t= o do whatever they want. American Stewards of Liberty discovered this coordination technique above and stopped the North American Union from literally dozing down several football fields of width through the heart of= mid America from Texas to Canada.

Currently municipal corporations at any levels can s= pend years on these junk agenda programs and then spring their poison apple of choice on the unsuspecting property owners. This as got to stop. Municipal corporations including the states have no authority or jurisdicti= on over the natural born state Citizens, their property and their resources.&n= bsp; The politicians and the lawyers have confiscated our property and natural resources.

ACTION ITEMS

Property owners need:

full and open public disclosure of government and non government AGENDAS at all levels
new processes stopping all governm= ent action against local private property owners
to be directly involved and approve&nbs= p;in any government or non government action affect their proper= ty and resources
must be consulted first before any project gets into and out of committee
major changes in the county and state courts;=

including Prosecuting Attorneys, Distr= ict, Superior, Court of Appeals & Supreme Court Judges <= span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-farea= st-font-family: "Times New Roman"'>
Beef up oath of office to obey the higher founding and fundamental laws of the land

Much stiffer penalties and easier prosecution of a= ny government employee who violates their oaths
Judges and PA's must disclose any agenda they= are given
Judges and PA's and their staff must be monit= ored and held personally accountable.
all property related violations must have strict limitations on penalties,

no open ended tampering of bail bond, jail time, avoidance of pleas, et al

Property Owners are witnessing District and Superi= or Court corruption especially in Pierce and King County
INDEPENDENT whistle blower and watch dog grou= ps inside all government departments that touch private property =
expanded powers of the AG to investigate and prose= cute any government corruption regarding private property taking= s
stiffer sentences against any government employee,=

including stiff fines and imprisonment of government employees giving excessive code enforcement and
the same for all court personnel that violate & harasses the rights of private property owners<= span style=3D'mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>

stiff sentences against any green extreme groups t= hat pressure government at any level to exercise private property takings, e.g.

Washington Environmental Council, Futurewise, CEL= P, Nature Conservancy, Autobahn, etc.

government wide investigations of departments that= are overly zealous persecuting private property owners, e.g.

Pierce and King County court system
King and Pierce County code enforcement, DDES.
King County Council extortion of unconstitutional permitting fees on top of unconstitutional property taxes

new legislation allowing personal liability s= uits against any government employee who breeches his/her oath and co= de of conduit.
the establishment of a Independent Office of Prope= rty Rights at State and county levels with applicable power to

summoned and hold any government employee accountable

before an independent group(s) private property owners and/or victims
from any acts including excessive legislation, regulations and enforcement upon private property owners.

impact statements on the basic unalienable ri= ghts of any impacted property owners. =

----- Original Message -----

From: J= ohn (Jack) R. Venrick

To: AJack R. Venrick

Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:23 PM

Subject: 5 Public Hearings Through Out the State of WA

----- Original Message -----

From: Martha

To: j= acksranch@skynetbb.com

Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 10:53 PM

Subject: Re: Fw: [Capr-announce] Aug 10-18 PUBLIC HEARINGS re: Dept of EcologyCHANGING...

Hello, Property Rights Folks,

I suggest you contact Sen. Janea Holmquist, 13th District (par= ts of Kittitas, Grant, Yakima Counties). I saw her on Channel 23 (TVW) stand u= p to Dept. of Ecology in a very assertive way. Contact her at homquist.janea@leg.wa.gov. (360)786-7624, (509) 766-6585. Rep. Bill Hinkle, same district, also talked well during the same hearing.

Martha P.

In a message dated 8/12/2010 12:55:49 P.M. Pacific Daylight Ti= me, jacksranch@skynetbb.com writes:

TO: Property Rights Folks

This is how all our property, wages, water, vehicles, animals, weapons, and some 70 other unalienable rights are taken, i.e. one = at a time behind your back with staged predetermined agendas.

Please pass this around especially for those who liv= e in these cities. This is a disease that will quickly spread if it is not stopped in its tracks.

* Lacey – August 10, 2010 6:30 pm, <= o:p>

*= Everett – August 11, 2010 6:30 pm&= nbsp;<= o:p>

*= Wenatchee – August 12, 2010 6:30 pm = <= o:p>

*= Spokane – August 17, 2010 6:30 pm<= br> * Richland – August 18, 2010 6:30 pm<= br>

Jack Venrick

Enumclaw, Washington

www.freedomforallseasons.org=

----- Original Message -----

From:

To:

Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 12:35 PM

Subject: [Capr-announce] Aug 10-18 PUBLIC HEARINGS re: Dept of EcologyCHANGING YOUR WATER RIGHTS

Fr= om: <= /span>

Se= nt: Thursday, August 12, 2010 2:04 AM
To: 'Capr-Admin'
Subject: Aug 10-18 PUBLIC HEARINGS re: Dept of Ecology CHANGING YOUR WATER RIGHTS

Fellow Property Rights Supporters,

Please check out the dates of the hearings below, and attend= if you can (starting TONIGHT in = Everett). I don’t mean to be alarmist without = a full understanding of this, but time is short for input, and this looks like this will affect water rights statewide (even though it talks about the Columbia Basin; see links below). The report appended below is from a contact = in Lewis County who attended the Ecology meeting in Lacey on Wedne= sday night. Let’s not let them get away with pushing through a pre-determined conclusion, please be heard!

If those of you that attend the meetings this week in Everett and Wenatchee wo= uld write a summary of the meeting and report back ASAP, that would be helpful = to share with others who can provide better-informed input at the meetings next Tuesday and Wednesday. Also, if anyone knows an attorney that’s= up to speed on this, please let me know.

Also, the information will facilitate preparation of letters demanding an extensi= on of the comment period to allow for sufficient review and comment on this.&n= bsp; I have added this as an agenda item for our CAPR Executive Board meeting on Friday night.

Thank you,

Scott

Scott Shock

Vice President

Citizens’ = Alliance for Property Rights

www.capr.us<= o:p>

L= inks:
http://www.ec= y.wa.gov/programs/wr/rules/hillis.html
http://= www.ecy.wa.gov/laws-rules/wac173152/wac173152.html
http://www.ecy.wa.gov/laws-rules/wac173152/p0905a.pdf (text)
Looks like it was filed July 7th. h= ttp://apps.leg.wa.gov/documents/laws/wsr/2010/14/10-14-113.htm

Fr= om: <= /span>

Se= nt: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 6:05 PM
To:

Su= bject: P= UBLIC HEARINGS w/Dept of Ecology CHANGING YOUR WATER RIGHTS Aug 10-18<= /span>

Hi Scott,

B= elow is the email I'm forwarding to people to get the word out about the hearings. Only 5 people attended the hearing in Olympia last night. We need more time to fig= ure out some of these details regarding our water rights and how this effects o= ur watershed management plan.

T= hank your time,

E= mily

&= nbsp;

T= here are 5 p= ublic hearing through out the state of WA  regardin= g Y= OUR WATER RIGHTS changes to Chapter 173-152 WAC – <= /strong>“Water Rights”.

&= nbsp;

T= his affects you even if you live in the city!!

<= br> * Lacey – August 10, 2010 6:30 pm,

*= Everett – August 11, 2010 6:30 pm&= nbsp;<= o:p>

*= Wenatchee – August 12, 2010 6:30 pm = <= o:p>

*= Spokane – August 17, 2010 6:30 pm<= br> * Richland – August 18, 2010 6:30 pm<= br>
There are several alarming changes that we need to question. = "Volun= tary&= nbsp;regional agreement", "water bank" and "trust water ri= ght program",

I attended the hearing in Lacey and the person who is the expert on "wat= er banking" and the "Water Trust Program" is conveniently out of the office on until after the hearings.

<= br> Hillis Rule Amendment: Chapter 173-152 WAC – “Water Rights” http://www.ec= y.wa.gov/programs/wr/rules/hillis.html ,
These proposed rules were filed July 7th 2010. h= ttp://apps.leg.wa.gov/documents/laws/wsr/2010/14/10-14-113.htm Public comment ends Sept 1st 2010.

Find your watershed: see how your watershed management plan is being implemented. Ecology told me these changes involving the "trust water right program" will not affect me but it's is mentioned in our watershed management plan.

http= ://www.ecy.wa.gov/PROgrams/eap/wrias/planning/index.html

&= nbsp;

T= rust Water Programs, Water Acquisition, Water Banking

http://ww= w.ecy.wa.gov/programs/wr/market/waterbank.html

Power Point on "Trust Water Rights" 2007
http://www.ecy.wa.gov/programs/wr/instream-flows/Images/= trust/TrustWaterRightQA.pdf

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Mr. Venrick, I appreciate the time you've obviously taken in writing this email, but given our current situation of reduced resources and staff, and increased workload, I am not asking my sta= ff to respond to each of your questions, many of which are not questions = of fact but very far reaching political and ideological arguments. I will say that our process for gathering public input is defined by the Washington Legislature in the form of the Administrative Procedures Act, which lays out how agencies are to conduct this business. Allowing for public input = is not at all the same as taking polls, which require statistically valid samples. Doing public opinion polls is not our job.

As to your question about communicating with property rights groups, it is a frequent occurence.

You claim my agency has a green bias. = As I'm sure you're aware, the job and mission of this agency is environmental protection, so I won't argue with you on that point. As in the past, = you have made quite clear that you completely oppose all that we do, and of cou= rse we disagree on that. From my obviously biased perspective, I find it unfortunate that you have such a skewed view of the people who work at the Department of Ecology, and the work they do. These people are committ= ed public servants who show up every day to do very challenging work that the people of Washington, through their elected legislature, have charged us wi= th doing. They are much more fair-minded than you think, and strive to balance the environmental mission with many of the concerns that you share. They do hard, important work, and I regret that they are frequently subjected to criticism that is undeserved. Like anyone, we= are not perfect, and it is fair to criticize us when we fall short, but our mission is both valid and essential, and the people who work here are decent, committed public servants. I expect we will continue to disag= ree on these points.

On specific issues like the Hillis rule, ple= ase feel free to continue to participate through the legally established public process.

Ted Sturdevant, Director

Washington Department of Ecology

“These people are committed public servants who show up e= very day to do very challenging work that the people of Washington, through their elected legislature, have charged us with doing. They are much more fair-minded than you think, and strive to balance the environmental mission with many of the concerns that you share. They do hard, important wor= k, and I regret that they are frequently subjected to criticism that is undeserved.”

- Ted Sturdevant, Director

Washington Department of Ecology

*** “Anytime someone puts a spade in the ground and turns over one shovel of dirt the ecological function of that land is lost forever”

– Kathy Taylor, Department of ecology “scientist”.

Jim Boyer

Dear Jack Venrick:

                        cc: Ted Sturtevant, Director, DOE

And what was it you expected from a "dedicated public servant"? Public servants that rationalize their jobs on radical international (UN) environmentalism, unconstitutional legislation and bureaucratic rule making, based on unsound science. Hmmm! Fish have more rights than people. Draconi= an environmental protection has usurped constitutional protected property rights. Due process and just compensation have no meaning anymore.&nb= sp; They are just words in an irrelevant document .... irrelevant to the politicians and "dedicated public servants" who thumb their noses at the foundation of our Constitutional Republic.

My guess is, you got = what you expected. No one, in our out of government, will rationalize their job as being unnecessary or irrelevant. Otherwise, their lives would have no purpose, or meaning.

And "public servant" is a significant misnomer. They are more like "trolls" of what they have determined to be, "their" own personal "bridge".

How many times have y= ou heard politicians, environmentalists and bureaucrats refer to rural lands as "their" land? Why is it that rural landowners are being ask= ed to bear almost the entire burden of environmental protection, while the city folk get off virtually scot-free? Because city folk have literally disenfranchised the rural population of America by electing representatives that only represent city folk and their social and environmental mandates.&= nbsp; Screw the constitution. Screw the un-represented minority.  America has now morphed into a Democracy, MOB rule, mo= bs of the dependent city folk who never saw a government handout, or a social = or environmental law they didn't like.

God help us!

Ron Ewart, President

NAT= IONAL ASSOCIATION OF RURAL LANDOWNERS

P. O. Box 1031, Issaq= uah, WA 98027

425 222-4742 or 1 800 682-7848

(Fax No. 425 222-4743= )

Website: www.narlo.org<= /span>