Thanks, Jack.
Yes, you can use what I wrote below. I also used the knowledge=
of
Roger Lowe, P.E.. an
experienced retired geotechnical engineer (rlowepe@main.net) .
I was involved in the "stakeholder" meetings which
discussed the public rule you have a link to. These meetings were held summ=
er
2009, and were a put up job, run by a facilitator. The great majority were =
fish
enhancement folks, including WDFW. There were 4 people who paddled riv=
ers,
and one drift boat guide, of 20 people total. At the end, I was the only one
who said, "I see death and destruction coming from this LWD policy&quo=
t;. Everyone
else had caved to the public pressure of a meeting, or were already propone=
nts
of more wood.
I will say that at the first meeting, David Brock, Regional
Habitat Program Manager of WDFW, talking with me during a recess in the
meeting, agreed with me that "There's something wrong with the enginee=
ring
at the county."
The county's claim that no deaths have happened because of the=
ir
woody debris is irrelevant, because these accidents are rare occurrences.
First, not that many people run rivers. Second, there are "near
misses" which aren't reported to authorities. There were 3 rescues this
year, two on the Cedar and one on the Green. These were the ones in the
newspapers.
After 15 years of working on the county to improve their safet=
y of
LWD installations, they are improving somewhat. They are using "deflec=
tor
logs", i.e. no root wad logs attached to the LWD at the low water
elevation when river travelers are expected to be present. This doesn't add=
ress
those on the river at higher water levels. For a recent job on the lower Ce=
dar
River, they told us they had actually "tubed"
the river, i.e. went downstream on inner tubes.
Even so, the policy of adding more and more wood will eventual=
ly
cause death and property destruction. Attached is a warning of danger from
trees published in the 1982 Washington Kayak Club member's handbook.
Experienced river paddlers, like myself, have kn=
own
this long before the county started their program.
Martha Parker
In a message dated 10/19/2010 9:32:15 A.M. Pacific Daylight Ti=
me,
jacksranch@skynetbb.com writes:
Great job Martha thanks a lot. I will post your comments=
and
may send out if Ok with you. I have an inside word that King County is
starting another woody debris blocking. They have=
hired one of my neighbors old friends as a consultant.
I can't find the project on there site, i=
t may
be covered up with one of their other projects.
Also found the attached on the ignored safety issues and here =
http://www.kingcounty.gov/council/news/=
2009/June/LP_woodydebris.aspx.
These county are idiots. Even the City of
Seattle employees think they are as well as the vendors. That says a
lot. We have an ex county type on our road who I know, and in dealing
with him on simple road maintenance, it makes a couple of wonder where he is
coming from.
This is a lie:
Has anyone died as a result of encountering placed large wood =
in
King County rivers?
There have been no known deaths as a result of wood placed by =
King
County. There were on average three river drowning deaths annually (compare=
d to
11 annually in lakes), according to data from the King County Medical Exami=
ner
and Public Health -- Seattle & King County regarding preventable
deaths by drowning from 1996-2006. None pf the =
deaths
were attributed to large wood during this 10-year period. According to the =
same
document, most cases of drowning could have been prevented through the use =
of a
personal floatation device (PFD), child supervision, avoiding alcohol
consumption near bodies of water, and other safety measures.
Jack Venrick
PS I have website documentary going out today on how the State=
of
Washington constitutionS are cooked and all the=
state
and US constitutions. This is how they do it. When the territor=
ies
were rolled over into the union, the prominent political attorneys and
politicians wrote up the constitutions more as municipal corporation bylaws
than constitutional republic constitutions focused on protecting the
sovereignty of the natural born state Citizens.
Jack
----- Original Message -----
From: MarthaLParker@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 19,
2010 12:26 AM
Subject: Boise Creek
www.kingcounty.gov/ddes/ and=
used
Parcel Viewer. This is easy to do, and you can just use the map to zero in =
on
the area you want - you don't need to have an address or parcel number.
www.rco.wa.gov/boards/srfb_meetings.sht=
ml
Once you write them, or attend a meeting, you will be on their email list. I
went there to complain that their money was used for an LWD project that ki=
lled
someone.