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Shocking Proof=85 Global Warming is a Hoax

December 9, 2009 by John=20 Myers

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(Part three of a three-part series on energy.)

=93We=92re being asked to wage trillions of dollars and = substantially=20 curtail freedom on climate models that are imperfect and unproven. = (With) the=20 consensus far from being as solid as they say it is, and the debate as = over as=20 they say it is.=94
George F. Will

In President Nixon=92s day, dirty tricksters did things the old = fashioned=20 way=97with black gloves and flashlights. The result was Watergate, the = eventual=20 legacy of which may be that anything corrupt contains a word ending with = =93gate.=94

The latest incident is Climategate. It began about three weeks ago = when a=20 computer hacker broke through a server used by the Climatic Research = Unit at the=20 University of East Anglia in England.

Unlike Watergate, which started a grand conspiracy, last month=92s = hacker-heist=20 may unravel one. It appears as if the stolen e-mails reveal collusion by = climate=20 scientists to withhold scientific information. Some scientists don=92t = want the=20 public to know the shocking truth=97that the climate is NOT getting = warmer.

The hacked e-mails from men and women of science include discussions = on how=20 to silence climate change skeptics. The e-mails also discussed how to = censure=20 scientists who dare to have contrary views on global warming and = included=20 derogatory remarks about climate skeptics. Finally, the e-mails discuss = how to=20 prevent actual data from being revealed under the Freedom of Information = Act=97an=20 action that seems to have little to do with freedom and less to do with=20 information.

For example, after learning that the scientific journal Climate=20 Research had suggested that perhaps the world isn=92t burning up, = Penn State=20 professor Michael Mann wrote in an e-mail: "I think we have to stop = considering=20 Climate Research as a legitimate peer-reviewed journal. Perhaps = we=20 should encourage our colleagues in the climate research community to no = longer=20 submit to, or cite papers in this journal."

Besides a seeming tendency to write people off in true Stalinist = fashion,=20 Mann has made a living writing about the dangers of global warming. He = helped=20 build the =93hockey stick graph=94 shown below.

=93Remember that this is not an academic exercise,=94 wrote The = Atlantic.=20 =93We contemplate outlays of trillions of dollars to fix this = supposed=20 problem. Do the scientists involved deserve to be trusted? No. These = people are=20 willing to subvert the very methods=97notably, peer review=97that = underwrite the=20 integrity of their discipline.=94

But the story gets even better. At the end of November the University = of East=20 Anglia admitted losing raw temperature data on which their predictions = of global=20 warming are based.

It means that nobody can check basic calculations that supposedly = show a=20 long-term rise in temperature for the past 130 years.

With Watergate Nixon gave the old, =93The dog ate my homework=94 = excuse.=20 (Actually Nixon=92s secretary Rose Mary Woods said she accidentally = erased the=20 recording of the president=92s meeting with H.R. Haldeman that took = place three=20 days after the break-in.)

With Climategate, the University of East Anglia is saying the = computer ate=20 the data.

According to the University=92s Website: =93We do not hold the = original raw data=20 but only the value-added (quality controlled and homogenized) = data.=94

Even if you accept that the University isn=92t cooking the books, the = environmentalists have a problem. They claim that world temperatures = have risen=20 one degree Fahrenheit in the past century. However the starting = point=97around=20 1880=97was colder than average. Furthermore, the timing of temperature = changes=20 does not fit the theory of global warming. Most of the rise came before = 1940, or=20 before greenhouse gases were significant.

A Bright Future for this Old Resource

In the end I think global warming will turn out to be more myth than = fact. If=20 that=92s the case then a lot of alternative energy investors will be = tempted to=20 jump-off the windmills they invested in. And as it is demonstrated that = fossil=20 fuels are not going to flood the world and kill off all the polar bears, = core=20 energy investors should do spectacularly well. In fact, the biggest = profits=20 might be in the oldest resource=97coal.

Coal-fired power plants account for half of the U.S. electricity = supply. More=20 importantly, coal is also America=92s most abundant natural = resource.

We have seen in the first two parts of this series that we live in a=20 dangerous age=97a period where renewable energy technologies have not = yet been=20 realized and a time when America is becoming dangerously dependent on = Arab=20 oil.

This third part to the series focuses on a tangible solution=97coal. = In all of=20 its abundance and its utility, coal will power America deep into the = 21st=20 Century.

Just last month The Wall Street Journal ran an article = titled:=20 Coal Warriors: Why U.S. Coal Producers Could Still Have a Bright=20 Future.

The WSJ stated: =93Coal is and will remain a huge part of = the=20 electricity mix in the U.S., despite=97or perhaps because = of=97congressional action=20 on energy and the climate.=94

The United States =97 the Saudi Arabia of Coal

The heady days of petroleum in America are far behind us. Over the = course of=20 the past 30 years America=92s oil imports have surged threefold=97from = 2.6 million=20 barrels per day (mb/d) to 7.6 mb/d.

The fundamental fact is that the United States and the world are = hungry for=20 energy. Consider the following:

U.S. demand for all types of energy is expected to increase by 31 = percent=20 within 25 years.
Electricity demand in the U.S. will grow by at least 40 percent by = 2032.

New power generation equal to nearly 300 1,000 megawatt power plants = will be=20 needed to meet electricity demand by 2030; as many as half of them will = be=20 coal.

Luckily, coal is the one resource the United States has plenty of. = The U.S.=20 has the largest coal reserves in the world, just short of 250 billion = tons. That=20 is almost the combined reserves of the next two largest reserve = countries China=20 and Russia.

In fact, the U.S. is one of the world=92s leading exporters of coal, = and is=20 expected to ship 65 million tons this year. That total will grow as = nations like=20 India and China ramp up their industrial revolutions with King Coal.

Future world demand for electricity is expected to be so strong that=20 Exxon-Mobil is planning on spending a record $25 billion to $30 billion = annually=20 over the next five years finding new hydrocarbon deposits.

=93The global economy is experiencing a downturn but at Exxon-Mobil = we are=20 focused on the long-term,=94 said Rex Tillerson, the company=92s = chairman and=20 CEO.

Power up Your Portfolio with Arch Coal

Any conversation about meeting future energy needs must include coal. = Even=20 the =93greens=94 realize this. According to left-leaning = CNET=20 News, =93Coal is a major source of air pollution, mining accidents, = and=20 environmental damage. Unfortunately, we can=92t live without=20 it.=94

The International Energy Agency (IEA) agrees. In its World Energy = Outlook,=20 the IEA says global energy demand will surge by 45 percent between now = and 2030.=20 The number one resource to meet this demand will be coal.

That makes investing in coal a smart choice, especially when you = consider how=20 depressed coal company stock prices have been over the past 15 = months.

My favorite blue-chip coal company is Arch Coal Inc (ACI, NYSE).

Arch mines and sells steam and metallurgical coal from surface and=20 underground mines to power plants, steel mills and industrial facilities = in the=20 United States. Arch operates 20 active mines and owns some 2.8 billion = tons of=20 proven and probable recoverable reserves.

As you can see from this graph, Arch is selling for about $20 or just = one-quarter of its 2008 high. The recession and the growing fears over = =93green=94=20 politics, starting inside the White House, make Arch an incredible = bargain.=20 Meanwhile the world is slowly learning the truth=97that global warming = is a hoax=20 perpetrated by the left-wing establishment and a liberal media.

And if that was not enough, the Federal Reserve and the Obama = administration=20 continue to expand the U.S. money supply at a shocking and unprecedented = rate.=20 You can read more details on this by going to my Nov. 11 column, Obama=92s Bear Market: How to Survive and = Prosper.

This surge of new money and continued easy credit is certain to lead = to=20 excessive inflation and continued dollar devaluation.

Taken as a whole, these factors could result in the doubling of Arch = Coal=92s=20 price over the next 18 months. That=92s something you don=92t often get = with a large=20 market cap stock. Yet I think we are going to see with Arch.

Action to take: I urge you to buy Arch Coal (ACI, = NYSE) at=20 market. Call you stockbroker today.

Yours for real wealth and good health

John Myers
Myers=92 Energy and Gold Report

Filed Under: John=20 Myers, Personal Liberty Articles
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John=20 Myers is editor of = Myers=92=20 Energy and Gold Report. The son of C.V. Myers, the = original=20 publisher of Oilweek Magazine, John has worked = with=20 two of the world=92s largest investment publishers, Phillips and Agora. = He was the=20 original editor for Outstanding Investments = and has=20 more than 20 years experience as an investment writer. John is a = graduate of the=20 University of Calgary. He has worked for Prudential Securities in = Spokane,=20 Wash., as a registered investment advisor. His office location in = Calgary,=20 Alberta, is just minutes away from the headquarters of some of the = biggest=20 players in today=92s energy markets. This gives him personal access to = everyone=20 from oil CEOs to roughnecks, where he learns secrets from oil insiders = he passes=20 on to his subscribers. Plus, during his years in Spokane he cultivated a = network=20 of relationships with mining insiders in Idaho, Oregon and = Washington.=20

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ASGreen says:

December=20 9, 2009 at 12:05 am

I am simply outraged by this article. Man-made global warming is a = fact. A=20 few emails by some scientists don=92t show otherwise. It=92s a good = thing people=20 in power have a better understanding of the reality of the situation = than Mr.=20 Myers does with his right-wing knee jerk reaction to anything that is = good for=20 society

Reply
- Ron says:=20
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 7:24 am
  
  You are full of it!
  
  Reply
  - Bob says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 7:46 am
    
    Show me the data!
    
    Reply
    - denniso says:
      
      December=20 10, 2009 at 9:52 am
      
      You can find the science on the web..don=92t read the phoney=20 interpretations by people(industry shills) w/ a vested = interest.
      
      Reply
      - DaveH says:
        
        December=20 10, 2009 at 10:57 am
        
        Anthropogenic Global Warming is not science. It is = politics. It is=20 strictly a vehicle used by the Liberals to scare the public = into=20 accepting Bigger Government and higher taxes.
      - DaveH says:
        
        December=20 10, 2009 at 12:50 pm
        
        The web is great resource. Universities post volumes of = technical=20 information on the web. And due to efficient search engines = the=20 information can be found faster than ever before.
        Where = else are=20 you going to find the information? The IPCC scientists sure = aren=92t=20 giving up any.
        http://dad29.blogspot.com/2009/09/ipcc-warming-data-lost-m= enckens-advice.html
      - denniso says:
        
        December=20 11, 2009 at 10:42 pm
        
        Global warming caused by human actions for 250+ yrs is = almost=20 certainly real..read this please.
        
        http://pewresearch.org/databank/dailynumber/?NumberID=3D90= 2
  - Don says:=20
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 5:34 pm
    
    Explain.
    
    Reply
- Curtis S says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 7:45 am
  
  ASGreen=85 I totally agree with you. I=92ve been wondering what = kind of=20 mental gymnastics someone has to go through to deny climate change. = But it=92s=20 classic media manipulation. Create doubt to push your agenda. You = don=92t=20 really have to prove anything just confuse the issue. Throw in the = laughable=20 Rasmussen poll that adds up to 120% and it shows that people are = sheep. If=20 you can create doubt then you can justify burning coal. There=92s no = such=20 thing as =93clean=94 coal, but the US has 250 years worth of coal. = Coincidence?=20 The agenda of the climate deniers is so obvious. Screech that global = warming=20 is a hoax so you can justify burning coal. It=92s just plain = selfish,=20 misguided, and greedy.
  
  Reply
  - DaveH says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 9:35 am
    
    Liberals amaze me. They will rail that we need Big Government = to=20 protect us from those big bad corporateers, while being totally = oblivious=20 to the fact that there are no magic barriers barring evil from = migrating=20 to government. History is replete with governments gone awry. And = unlike=20 corporations which at worst can only lie to us to sell their = products, Big=20 Government can force us to buy their products (or the products of = their=20 favored corporations).
    The =93selfish, misguided, and greedy=94 = ones are=20 you Liberals who want to force your way on the rest of us.
    
    Reply
    - Sally says:
      
      December=20 9, 2009 at 1:33 pm
      
      Well said Dave. I don=92t think anyone is denying climate = change, but I=20 do take issue with the idea that it is man-made and there is not = consensus over the issue. Even scientists at NASA and the U.S. = Army=20 point to the Sun as having much more to do with it than humans. = And how=20 do you account for the fact that 8 out of the 9 planets in our = solar=20 system are experiencing global warming? Are the aliens running = their=20 washing machines too much perhaps?
      Preservation and recycling = are=20 great endeavors which I whole-heartedly support, but all we=92re = saying is=20 let=92s not hurt our economy with unnecessary legislation. And = let=92s=20 certainly not allow the Obama Administration to BYPASS Congress. = Excuse=20 me but I thought our country was a Constitutional Republic =96 = does this=20 not upset anyone?? And if Obama and the EPA want to curb = greenhouse gas=20 emissions they better figure out how to tax our oceans since = they emit=20 over 98% of them!!!
      
      Reply
      - BOE says:
        
        December=20 9, 2009 at 10:51 pm
        
        Why don`t they stop flying around in those great big = jets?!? Just=20 look at the action of those pushing the global warming hoax = the=20 loudest. That should tell you something.
      - denniso says:
        
        December=20 10, 2009 at 9:59 pm
        
        DaveH=85w/o a gov=92t large enough to protect you and your = kind from=20 corporate excesses,you would have lived a life enslaved = totally by a=20 corporate oligarchy. You say that the worst thing corporations = can do=20 is force us to buy their product?? Are you serious? You = don=92t remember=20 the toxic disaster of Love Canal? How about the Exxon Valdez = oil=20 spill?? Lead poisoning, acid rain,asbestos killing = people,mercury in=20 all fish,DDT poisoning=85There are countless other incidents = of=20 corporations damaging the planet and people. You are so = obviously=20 biased in favor of big biz over working people that it=92s = laughable. It=20 has been imperfect gov=92t=92s that have fought to rid the = world of some=20 of the worst abuses wrought by corporations that exist only to = make a=20 profit,not to protect the environment or people.
    - Don says:=20
      
      December=20 9, 2009 at 5:36 pm
      
      So you never found a corporation that was greedy?
      
      Reply
      - Joe H. says:
        
        December=20 9, 2009 at 6:36 pm
        
        Don,
        Read a little better!!!!
      - Jana says:
        
        December=20 10, 2009 at 11:08 am
        
        Don, Yes, and Al Gore=92s Corp. is getting rich off of the = scam.
    - eyeswideopen = says:
      
      December=20 10, 2009 at 7:28 pm
      
      Daveh, you obviously missed all the reports showing which = Senators=20 have been purchased by the healthcare industry haven=92t you? = Too much=20 watching of the Fox network. Try the BBC, we even made them = laugh as the=20 amount of monies given were rather large, say 3 million to just = one=20 Senator. All of the Senators get donations from the = corporations, who in=20 turn expect said Senator to vote in the interests of said = corporation.=20 You can=92t even try and deny that is what is happening. I know = you want=20 to ignore that little fact,but just follow the money and you = will see=20 how corrupt the corporations are.
      
      Reply
      - Claire says:
        
        December=20 10, 2009 at 7:56 pm
        
        Eyes=97Lieberman is one of them. I need to know all of the = names=20 involved in this. I will check this out because I know you are = right.=20 That is why I said they should forget Health Care Reform = because it=20 will turn out to be a nightmare after they get all their = =93perks=94 in.=20 And you can bet the insurance companies will call in their = =93markers=94=20 and Senators will have to cough up. That is why Health Care = reform=20 will screw all of us.
    - kattie chg. = says:
      
      December=20 15, 2009 at 6:25 am
      
      and, there are parts of the globe that are getting cooler, = year after=20 year=85this is such a farse, for socialized government. wake up=20 people!
      
      Reply
    - J C says:
      
      December=20 21, 2009 at 7:17 am
      
      Government does not protect us from corporate excesses. It=20 participates. Did you just get to this planet?
      
      Reply
  - Rod James says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 11:23 pm
    
    Burning coal is not new the US burns coal for the majority of = its=20 electricity now. The trains that carry the remaning solid waste = every year=20 would go from New York to LA and back three times. The biggest lie = is=20 Clean Coal as there is no such thing or no such plant working = anywhere in=20 the world.The THEORY of clean coal is to strip out the carbon = dioxide=20 before its burned and store it underground. The first proposed = plant was=20 to be in Illinois by 2013 but funding was terminated by Bush = Energy=20 Secretary Sam Bodman when costs doubled to 1.8 billion = dollars.This info=20 is from A Presidential Energy Policy by M.C Ruppert(a must read by = everyone concerned with the environment, energy and the = future.
    
    Reply
    - denniso says:
      
      December=20 10, 2009 at 9:57 am
      
      You=92re right,there is no such thing as =91clean = coal=92=85but, like any=20 energy source,it can be made cleaner. The process to clean it up = while=20 burning is so expensive that it becomes non competitive. If all = the=20 carbon based energy sources were made to =91clean up=92,they = also would be=20 less competitive against solar,wind,etc.
      
      Reply
    - dell says:
      
      December=20 10, 2009 at 11:17 am
      
      =93strip the co2 before burning=94=85 ahh I thought co2 is = the bi product=20 from burning!
      
      Reply
- Bill says:=20
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 7:53 am
  
  ASGreen, I bet if Obama or one of the so called green freaks told = you to=20 jump off a mountain and kill yourself for the =93HOAX=94 results all = the so=20 called climate experts say is correct, because it would be good for = the=20 enviroment, you would in fact jump off a cliff. When are you radical = left=20 wing =93Progressive Democratic Socialist=94 going to learn to think = for yourself=20 instead of listening to your elected Multi-Millionaire=92s or=20 Multi-Billionaire=92s. You folks are nothing but sheep that are = being lead to=20 the slaughter.
  
  Reply
  - DaveH says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 10:12 am
    
    That would save a lot of Greenhouse Gas Emissions. But all = kidding=20 aside, that would not happen. They are not trying to save the = planet. They=20 are trying to better their lives at our expense.
    
    Reply
  - larry says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 2:13 pm
    
    Right on Bill as Michael Savage say=92s LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL = DISORDER=20 !!!!
    
    Reply
    - Don says:=20
      
      December=20 9, 2009 at 5:47 pm
      
      This is coming from a guy that has a mental disorder.
      
      Reply
    - denniso says:
      
      December=20 10, 2009 at 10:02 am
      
      Savage is SICK!! And laughing all the way to the bank w/ $$ = made off=20 the ignorance of his listeners..pathetic!!!
      
      Reply
  - Don says:=20
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 5:46 pm
    
    Bill, you would be jumping off another mountain, because = Limbaugh has=20 inspired you to do so. You are just a sheep following another=20 shepherd.
    
    Reply
    - Mike says:
      
      December=20 9, 2009 at 8:29 pm
      
      Hey Amigo, did you know that 50 percent of carbon dioxide = comes from=20 the ocean. How are you going to stop that?
      
      Reply
      - denniso says:
        
        December=20 10, 2009 at 10:05 am
        
        The Oceans are part of the natural balance of the global = eco=20 system. Our spewing crap into the atmosphere for the last 250 = yrs is=20 not and is the problem. We are tipping the system out of = balance. Read=20 some science.
      - J C says:
        
        December=20 21, 2009 at 7:21 am
        
        And rotting forests provide a whole lot more. One volcano = spewing=20 for one day emits so much CO2 that all of our combined efforts = to=20 reduce =93CO2″ would be rendered useless in just one = day. Its a complete=20 waste of time and money. Not to mention, no CO@, no life on = earth.=20 These liberal wackos seem hell bent on actually exterminating = all=20 human life.
- Disgusted says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 8:25 am
  
  So a few emails from scientists debunking global warming being = caused by=20 man is not proof, however a few emails from scientists proving = global=20 warming is enough proof for you to believe it is true. Why? They say = 50% of=20 the scientists believe and 50% don=92t. Obviously you have chosen = your side,=20 some of us have chosen the other side. If global warming were being = caused=20 by man I believe all scientists would confirm and agree that we need = to do=20 something, but with 50% of them against the idea I think I want to = see some=20 real proof. I am glad the emails came out. They prove once again = that we are=20 sheep ready to follow without any glance to the side.
  
  Reply
  - Earlw says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 10:41 am
    
    I usually avoid posting anymore because of all the flaming = going on,=20 but I just have to say something today! The proportion of = scientists that=20 are pro-AGM (warming) are approximately 6000, while the number of = those=20 opposed is 31,000. In addition, a certain number of those are not = even=20 scientists, but are members of the IPCC which is NOT a scientific=20 organization, but rather an organization to promote the warming = theory.=20 This whole thing is being promoted primarily as a vehicle for the = trading=20 of =93carbon credits=94 which the big banks are gearing up to do = business=20 with. I suggest that the bleeding hearts do a little more = research=85.There=20 is ample SOLID evidence of solar activity being the precursor of = CO2 rise,=20 not the other way around..There other studies, such as tree rings, = historical data, etc. to show there have been warmer periods than = this,=20 and that what is actually happening is the appearance of a new Ice = age,=20 however muted it may be. Temperature has not rise year-to-year for = ten=20 years now=85=85..WAKE UP!!!!
    
    Reply
    - Sally says:
      
      December=20 9, 2009 at 1:37 pm
      
      Very well-said EarlW!!!
      
      Reply
    - Don says:=20
      
      December=20 9, 2009 at 5:48 pm
      
      Where did you get this information?
      
      Reply
      - DaveH says:
        
        December=20 9, 2009 at 10:31 pm
        
        http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=3DPAGE.view&pageId=3D6= 4734
      - Earlw says:
        
        December=20 10, 2009 at 9:06 am
        
        Just had to throw this in=85..Looking on the WND website, = there is a=20 collage of the three presidents. I was immediately struck with = the=20 MIRTHFUL thought, these guys are like the THREE = STOOGES!!=85.Yeah, I=92m=20 old enough to remember them (65). Battle on, folks!
    - Jana says:
      
      December=20 10, 2009 at 11:24 am
      
      Disgusted,
      Actually a lot more than 50% of the scientists = do NOT=20 believe in global warming. The problem is the ones who do not = believe in=20 this global warming lie have been shut up and shut out. They = have not=20 been allowed to speak up. A few have tried but again, follow the = money=20 and you will see who is shutting them up.
      
      Eventually the truth comes out, and it finally has.
      
      Obama stated during his campaign that he was going to close = down coal=20 mining. I wondered then if anyone was listening to him or just = in the la=20 la land of change change change.
      
      Reply
      - DaveH says:
        
        December=20 10, 2009 at 12:54 pm
        
        Jana,
        Considering the fact that most scientists are paid = either=20 directly or indirectly by the government, you can imagine how = much=20 courage it takes for them to stand up and refute the=20 Man-Made-Global-Warming Hoax.
      - denniso says:
        
        December=20 11, 2009 at 7:09 pm
        
        DaveH=85you=92re exactly right. The gov=92t is pushing = global warming=20 because it wants to enslave YOU for their huge benefit. You = are=20 missing the fact though, that it is only you and some of your=20 =91friends=92 here that are in danger of being enslaved. The = rest of us=20 don=92t have to worry.
    - J C says:
      
      December=20 21, 2009 at 7:23 am
      
      The owner of the Weather Channel along woth 30,000+ = scientists have=20 actually launched a law suit against Al Gore for fraud. Good on = them=20 too.
      
      Reply
- Jerry Semenick says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 8:50 am
  
  Your are nuts,so i suppose we should give the world a bunch of = our(tax=20 payers) money.
  so are you a socialist?
  
  Reply
  - Don says:=20
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 5:53 pm
    
    Jerry, I agree with you. The repub. want to give another = trillion to=20 Iraq. The Dem. want to give a trillion to Americans. Either way we = don=92t=20 have it.
    
    Reply
- Raggs says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 9:08 am
  
  I=92m sure you also believe in government ran health = care=85
  Or as I call=20 it =93wealth-care=94.. Not to mention = =93cap-n-trade=94.
  Brainwashed and can=92t=20 think for yourself?
  
  Reply
- RHSchumann says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 9:20 am
  
  Well said!
  
  Reply
- DMP says:=20
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 9:24 am
  
  This guy here has got it right on! Couldn=92t agree more.
  Bill = says:
  December 9, 2009 at 8:09 am
  Hey Franky Boy, I just = happen to be=20 one of the people your talking about. I spent over half my life = defending=20 this Country and it=92s way of life. Hell yes I own guns and I also = own=20 Bibles. Yes I do believe in God, Country and Guns. Glenn Beck along = with all=20 the reporter on FOX and Beck=92s radio program are all DEAD-ON. Yes, = I use my=20 weapons for self defense of myself and my family and I=92m not = afraid to use=20 them. Will I take my guns and run around killing just for the hell = of it,=20 NO. PAL, in case you=92ve never heard it =93People Kill, Not = Guns=94, guns are=20 only a tool just as a mechanic uses wrenches. Take naway the gun=92s = and what=20 do you have then, people running around with a knife cutting = people=92s=20 throat. Take away the knife what do you have, people running around = bashing=20 people=92s skulls with rocks or choking them to death. Morale of the = story is,=20 if a person has it in their mind to kill, they don=92t need a gun to = do=20 it.
  
  Furthermore, man will not destroy the earth with so-called GLOBAL = WARMING. What a hoax. Here is your real global warming which will = happen=20 only in God=92s timing!
  Zep 1:18 Neither their silver nor their = gold shall=20 be able to deliver them in the day of the LORD=92S wrath; but the = whole land=20 shall be devoured by the fire of his jealousy: for he shall make = even a=20 speedy riddance of all them that dwell in the land.
  
  Zep 3:8 Therefore wait ye upon me, saith the LORD, until the day = that I=20 rise up to the prey: for my determination is to gather the nations, = that I=20 may assemble the kingdoms, to pour upon them mine indignation, even = all my=20 fierce anger: for all the earth shall be devoured with the fire of = my=20 jealousy.
  
  Rev 8:7 The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire = mingled=20 with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of = trees=20 was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
  
  Rev 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come = down=20 from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
  
  Rev 16:8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; = and power=20 was given unto him to scorch men with fire.
  
  Reply
  - Curtis S says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 10:40 am
    
    Yeah, let=92s ignore modern science and rely on a 2000 year old = book of=20 mythology designed to control the commoners.
    
    Reply
    - RHSchumann says:
      
      December=20 9, 2009 at 10:44 am
      
      You said it!
      
      Reply
  - DaveH says:
    
    December=20 10, 2009 at 9:48 am
    
    Speaking of Guns. Yet another anti-gun judge is up to be = confirmed by=20 the Senate. And he probably will be since 57 out of 100 senators = are=20 Democrats. Remember when Obama was campaigning? Here is one of his = speeches. Watch the carefully spoken words on his gun stance. He = gives the=20 impression that he favors 2nd Amendment rights, yet he nominates = judges=20 that are anti 2nd Amendment. Don=92t listen to their words people. = Politicians lie. Listen to their actions.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D3fl28DjKrgQ&feature=3D= related
    
    Reply
    - DaveH says:
      
      December=20 10, 2009 at 9:49 am
      
      http://gunowners.org/a120809.htm
      
      Reply
    - denniso says:
      
      December=20 10, 2009 at 10:08 am
      
      The sky is falling on DaveH..he may not be able to buy his = rocket=20 propelled grenades any more..poor DaveH..
      
      Reply
      - DaveH says:
        
        December=20 10, 2009 at 10:33 am
        
        Such a child.
    - J C says:
      
      December=20 21, 2009 at 7:27 am
      
      Dave, keep doing what you are doing. Let everyone know about = the=20 creeping Police State=92s mission to disarm us all. denniso = might be ok=20 with being a state owned sheep but most of us aren=92t. Perhaps = she should=20 read some history. 56 million people were rounded up and = murdered after=20 being disarmed during the 20th century. I=92ll stick with the = American=20 values that brought us the 2nd Amendment in the first place. Its = what=20 made us a free nation.
      
      Reply
  - denniso says:
    
    December=20 11, 2009 at 7:17 pm
    
    Equating guns w/ other tools is idiotic,though a common thing = among the=20 gun lovers. Give a knife or shovel or wrench to the killer at Ft = Hood and=20 see how many people he could have killed. 1,2 before being = overpowered and=20 stopped. Every weapon is designed to kill,actual tools are not. = Bigger=20 weapons and automatic ones kill quicker,obviously. Do you call an = atomic=20 bomb a tool?? All it does is kill more people than a knive=85
    
    Reply
    - DaveH says:
      
      December=20 11, 2009 at 9:05 pm
      
      They were unable to stop the attacker because Liberals like = you have=20 made it hard for the victims to arm and defend = themselves.
      Mexico=20 can=92t even stop all the violence there, and you honestly = believe the=20 perp couldn=92t/wouldn=92t have acquired a weapon somewhere to = do his dirty=20 work?
      
      Reply
    - J C says:
      
      December=20 21, 2009 at 7:28 am
      
      OR you could just disarm everyone on a MILITARY base and turn = them=20 into instant victims. Go back to cloud nine.
      
      Reply
- jbird says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 9:36 am
  
  If the science is settled, as you say, explain this please:
  http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/12/revenge_of_the_comp= uter_nerds_1.html
  Is=20 this a knee-jerk reaction?
  
  Reply
  - DaveH says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 10:21 am
    
    Excellent post Jbird. But the Liberals will either not read the = article=20 or they will poo-poo it, as Global Warming is like a religion to = them =96=20 something to be taken on faith.
    
    Reply
    - libertytrain = says:
      
      December=20 9, 2009 at 10:42 am
      
      Dave H =96 couldn=92t agree with you more -
      
      Reply
      - denniso says:
        
        December=20 10, 2009 at 10:10 am
        
        There is science and there is superstitution and there is = plain=20 ignorance..read the SCIENCE!!!
      - DaveH says:
        
        December=20 10, 2009 at 10:34 am
        
        Science. Something Denniso knows nothing about. He/she = can=92t even=20 figure out economics with a supposed Economics degree.
      - J C says:
        
        December=20 21, 2009 at 7:32 am
        
        Do you mean the science with all the pretty pictures of ice = bergs=20 calving while the Reverend Gore explains that this is somehow = new?Or=20 the skewed (but very official looking) graph that shows the = planet=20 warming when it has been cooling for a decade?
        That=92s not = science=85that=92s hypnotism, and the very simple are highly = susceptible=20 to it. Poor you=85.
    - Dan-o says:
      
      December=20 9, 2009 at 2:48 pm
      
      So if all these people believe in global warming why aren=92t = they=20 living in tents and riding bicycles. Bunch of hypocrites willing = to=20 preach it but not willing to go to the extreme they talk about. = if you=20 really believe in this global warming you will do your part, and = I don=92t=20 mean recycling or buying one of those little death trap cars = just so you=20 could feel good that your doing something. go the distance and = be an=20 example. no one likes to be forced to do anything, so be a = leader and=20 sell your house and car, better yet dismanle them or blow them = up=20 because you don=92t want anyone else using that bad mean energy = and get a=20 tent and bicycle, just think of all that fresh air and exersize, = but no=20 they aren=92t willing to do that, they don=92t want to jump into = the cold=20 water by their selfs, they want every one to go at the same = time. Bunch=20 of wimps
      
      Reply
      - Fed Up Gal in = NM says:
        
        December=20 9, 2009 at 11:09 pm
        
        Jbird, DaveH, Libertytrain, Dan-o:
        
        Oh my=85.you are all right on target! Dan-o, way to go=85.I = totally=20 agree with your assessment=85.they are a =93bunch of wimps=94 = that just want=20 to control others=92 lives=85and to hell with what they do to = their own=20 lives=85while desperately trying to pull the rest of us into = their=20 confused chaos=85they call a good for mankind=85..well=85seems = more like=20 good for nothing!
        
        Fed Up Gal
      - Disgusted = says:
        
        December=20 10, 2009 at 8:33 am
        
        The biggest culprit is the self proclaimed shepard of the = sheep=20 that are blindly following him: Al Gore!
        If he was so = worried about=20 our foot prints on this planet and the effect they are having = towards=20 global warming why isn=92t he personally setting the example. = His home=20 is one of the most non-green, energy inefficient homes = (mansions) ever=20 built and yet he is still up on his soap box preaching what he = doesn=92t=20 practice to the masses! Not to mention the private jets he is = using to=20 fly him all over this planet to preach his bull.
        Lead by=20 example.
  - Curtis S says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 12:36 pm
    
    If you look at the final graph, the raw temperature data from = NZ, the=20 one without the =93fudge factor=94 there is a very obvious = increase in the=20 temperature anomaly at the =93present=94 end of the chart. The = increase in=20 temperature at the right side of the graph is also the = biggest.
    
    Reply
    - Sally says:
      
      December=20 9, 2009 at 1:39 pm
      
      And it is caused by man because=85..?
      
      Reply
      - Curtis S says:
        
        December=20 9, 2009 at 5:19 pm
        
        It=92s caused by emissions from the exhaust pipes of = millions of cars=20 and trucks worldwide. Cars and trucks in driven by people who = can=92t=20 afford to maintain their vehicles and made in countries that = have NO=20 emission controls. It=92s caused by burning coal to power = electric=20 generators and it=92s raised by industrial farming of methane = producing=20 animals. Climate change is created by clear cutting forests,=20 especially tropical rain forests which further hinders the = planet=92s=20 ability to process CO2. Have you ever looked at the pollution = in LA?=20 The permanent haze trapped in the valley is similar to the = green house=20 gas effect. Ever heard of a temperature inversion caused by = pollution?=20 It=92s the same thing. You can bury your head in the sand and = call it a=20 hoax. You can work your beads and hope some imaginary =93guy = in the sky=94=20 rescues you. Or you can call people liberals, but none of that = helps.=20 You have to come up with something better. Taxation sucks. = Taxation=20 without representation through some UN agreement definitely = sucks. But=20 if you don=92t like the solution you have to find a better one = and we=20 better think of something better quick.
      - DaveH says:
        
        December=20 9, 2009 at 10:42 pm
        
        Quick Curtis? They=92ve been warning of impending = catastrophy from=20 Global Warming since about 1980 (not long after many were = anguishing=20 about Global Cooling).
        It is well-known by anybody who does = some=20 reading that the Government needs from time to time to come up = with=20 scares to panic the citizens so they will accept more = government=20 funding of scientific studies and greater government = growth.
      - denniso says:
        
        December=20 10, 2009 at 10:13 pm
        
        DaveH=85.We are already in trouble w/ warming. If we = stopped all CO2=20 emissions now, warming will continue for 50 or so yrs due to = what we=20 have already done to the atmosphere and the time it takes for = the=20 excess CO2 to dissipate. That=92s why we need to act = now.
        And I guess=20 your reference to the gov=92t using fear to control people was = like what=20 Bush/Cheny did for 8yrs w/ the terrorist issue. Raising the = threat=20 level at crucial political times for their benefit??
    - J C says:
      
      December=20 21, 2009 at 7:36 am
      
      This just in! Our planet is warmed by a strange and very = bright ball=20 in the sky=85.some call it =93The Sun=94. And apparently it has = been having=20 some higher than average =93solar activity=94 for the last = while.
      This is=20 a phenomenon whereby =93The Sun=94 shoots great tongues of flame = across=20 something called =93Space=94 towards the =93Earth=94. This flame = is very warm.=20 So denniso try this=85go stand near a fire, then move away. Now = move back=20 towards it=85.you might begin to see the effect and a light = might turn on=20 for you.
      
      Reply
  - Don says:=20
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 5:57 pm
    
    jbird =96 on one of DaveH suggested reading, it said the oceans = keep on=20 warming. In certain areas polar bears are dying and in other areas = they=20 are thriving. It is something we should continue to investigate, = if=20 someone has the money to do so.
    
    Reply
    - DaveH says:
      
      December=20 9, 2009 at 10:44 pm
      
      Don,
      You put your finger on the real problem. It is = involuntary=20 money that is being spent on these studies. If investors want to = freely=20 donate their own money for such studies that is great.
      
      Reply
  - Earlw says:
    
    December=20 10, 2009 at 9:22 am
    
    And This! Here is the website of the 31,000 plus scientists who = say the=20 AGW theory is BS=85=85..IF you can stand to see the truth!!!!!
    
    petitionproject.org
    
    Reply
- Ex-Dem says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 10:06 am
  
  I was a Democrat for 35 years and I got sick of the left-right = battle, so=20 I got away from both parties. When are you going to realize that the = =93powers=94 pit us against one another so that we=92ll be so busy = fighting that=20 we=92re oblivious to all the dirty tricks they=92re up to? Also, = Google this:=20 31,000 scientists sign petition disputing global warming. That = proves that=20 there is NO consensus. Take the time to research instead of your = constant=20 bickering. I followed party line without question and finally woke = up. I=20 will vote according to my beliefs and not a particular party. Also, = who do=20 you think is going to run the new global government? According to = the Danish=20 draft of the Copenhagen Treaty, none other than the IMF and World = Bank. They=20 will be self-appointed, self-perpetuated. The words =93election, = vote or=20 ballot=94 do not appear in the treaty =96 just as the EU was not = elected by the=20 people. There will be NO WAY to call them into account or question = or remove=20 them. Once the treaty binds the nation (Obama signs it) we will NOT = be able=20 to remove ourselves from it unless by unanimous vote by all other = nations to=20 let us leave. You are literally going to be taxed on breathing=85 as = anyone=20 with any sense at all knows the oxygen-co2 cycle of LIFE. Global = warming=20 police will be able to inspect your home without warrants. If = you=92re not in=20 compliance, you=92ll be fined for each day you=92re not compliant. = Developed=20 countries will pay a tax of, up to, 2% of their GDP to fund the new=20 government. There will also be a uniform global levy of $2 p/ton of = co2 for=20 all fossil fuel emissions. All airfares will carry a =93green = levy,=94 except=20 for journeys in and out of 3rd world countries. And all the panels, = boards,=20 and technical funds will come out of taxpayer=92s pockets ABOVE the = previous=20 financial provisions. There will be 700+ new bureaucracies created. = In just=20 a few days, the US Constitution will be nothing more than an = historical=20 document, as this treaty will trump it. The president and congress = will be=20 nothing more than their puppets, and you will be their slaves. = Please, don=92t=20 take ANYONE=92S word for what=92s transpiring=85 not even mine. = THINK FOR=20 YOURSELF, before it=92s too late. Do any of you trust the government = and the=20 globalists so completely as to follow their lead on this without so = much as=20 reading the treaty they=92re shoving down your throats? Think about = that. How=20 much do you trust them? How much do you REALLY know? If all you know = is what=20 the government and corporate media reports, you=92ve been led = astray. Find the=20 document =96 find the treaty and read it for yourself while = there=92s still a=20 chance to save to OUR REPUBLIC. Our allegiance, first and foremost, = is to=20 our country =96 NOT a party =96 and certainly not the UN or the = World Bank.
  
  Reply
  - Earlw says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 10:47 am
    
    This man speaks the truth! Earlier in this blog I posted = essentially=20 the same Information, not having seen this one yet.
    
    This whole thing is a HUGE scam!!!!
    
    Reply
  - Don says:=20
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 6:02 pm
    
    Russia, China, European countries, and the US would not go for = what and=20 how you stated this.
    
    Reply
    - Brian O says:
      
      December=20 9, 2009 at 7:21 pm
      
      Don
      Oh, they will sign it. The people who control their = money will=20 pull their strings to make sure they do. 145 TRILLION dollars at = stake=20 they will sign.
      Obama has already said he will sign and we = will be=20 the biggest Loser in this plan. Once America falls the rest of = the World=20 will fall in line.
      FOLLOW THE MONEY! Point of intrest did you = know=20 there are only 5 major countries left in the world who do not = use a=20 CENTRAL BANK?
      Iran,North Korea,Cuba,
      
      Reply
      - Brian O says:
        
        December=20 9, 2009 at 7:29 pm
        
        Oops I just found out these countries now have Central = Banks=20 also.
      - denniso says:
        
        December=20 10, 2009 at 10:28 pm
        
        If any single entity controls things it=92s big business. = Gov=92t=92s are=20 often pitted against them for the betterment of society or the = planet.=20 Gov=92t=92s don=92t make money on policy positions like corps = do selling=20 stuff. The only reason that most(though not all)big biz is = against=20 almost all gov=92t initiatives that don=92t directly benefit = them, is=20 money. Any restriction or regulation on what biz wants to do = costs=20 them money in the short term,though those policies may ensure = their=20 long term viability. They are opposed to action on global = warming=20 because of that.
      - Rod James = says:
        
        December=20 10, 2009 at 10:44 pm
        
        Yea Brian O, Thats why the wester nations have labled them = Rogue=20 Nations. They don=92t want to seem to play ball with the = IMF,WTO=20 etc.
        Gee I wonder why with the financial mess they have = stuck us=20 with.
  - Brian O says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 6:42 pm
    
    Bullseye!
    
    Reply
    - Brian O says:
      
      December=20 9, 2009 at 6:49 pm
      
      The Bullseye! was meant for you ex-dem!
      Welcome to = reality.
      
      Reply
  - Rod James says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 11:32 pm
    
    Ex Dem, Excellent post you hit the nail on the head with it. We = can=20 argue forever about Global Warming but the real threat is with = Global=20 Elite who will squeeze every cent they have out of the Global = Citizen.
    
    Reply
- JT says:=20
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 10:24 am
  
  Keep drinking the coolaide.
  
  Reply
  - Ex-Dem says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 12:09 pm
    
    Keep dissing your fellow citizens and the truth then =96 = that=92s much more=20 logical (and easier) than being a critical thinker and researching = it for=20 yourself. Immature, inflexible, uninformed, apathetic, = name-callers that=20 actually believe (LOL) the spoon-fed, government propaganda (like = you) are=20 why we will be run by Globalists in less than 2 weeks. They know = that most=20 Americans are too LAZY to research the truth. They=92ve got you = where they=20 want you =96 on a leash. That=92s why I quit toeing either party = line. I=92m=20 independent enough to think for myself and question anything and=20 everything they try to feed me. When will you realize THEY CARE = NOTHING=20 ABOUT YOU or anything else but their pocketbooks, power and = agenda? Global=20 warming is ALL ABOUT THEIR BOTTOM LINES, period. They could give a = rat=92s=20 butt about anything other than THEIR ECONOMY. BTW =96 these ARE = the same=20 people that brought us TARP. Two parties under one united MASK of = the=20 Central Bankers. How naive can Americans be?
    
    Bye-bye US Constitution =97 hello eugenics / FEMA camps. If you = want to=20 really be useful to your country, question everything. Do a search = on=20 David Rockefeller + eugenics. Or Ted Turner, Rothschild, = Kissinger.=20 They=92ve all released statements on cutting the population Do a = search on=20 Obama=92s Director of the Office of Science and Technology, John = Holdren and=20 see what they=92re vision of the new world is. He co-authored = =93Ecoscience=94=20 in 1977 which proves he is a strong proponent of eugenics. And = when they=20 say cull the population, they aren=92t just talking about 3rd = world=20 countries.
    
    Do yourself a favor. Break free from the Dem or GOP label and = become an=20 American. Hold their feet to the fire =96 that=92s your job and = your=20 constitutional responsibility.
    
    Reply
    - Brian O says:=20
      
      December=20 9, 2009 at 7:35 pm
      
      Ex- Dem
      
      You have done your homework! BRAVO!
      Listen to this person = go=20 research it for yourselves! If we stand together
      we can = defeat the=20 truly few who are behind this EVIL scheme!
      
      Reply
    - American Citizen = says:
      
      December=20 10, 2009 at 10:04 am
      
      I just wish all voters would wake up and become Independent. = I=92m=20 thinking, why do we need political parties? Why can=92t we just = vote in=20 people who say what they mean and mean what they say? After all, = our=20 founders did not belong to any political party. They each one = thought=20 for themselves. And look what they gave us, our constitutional = republic,=20 the greatest political system in the world. There are far too = many=20 politicians out to destroy it.
      
      Reply
      - DaveH says:
        
        December=20 10, 2009 at 12:59 pm
        
        Citizen,
        The Party candidates are generally = representative of=20 their Party Platforms. It gives us a starting foundation. Then = we must=20 carefully listen to their words and study their past record to = really=20 know what they stand for. A non-party candidate would require = much=20 more scrutiny.
      - Claire says:
        
        December=20 10, 2009 at 7:41 pm
        
        American Citizen=96I don=92t know why people vote for = parties either!=20 It is just more of the same. Another thing, our founding = fathers had a=20 different world to deal with. It was a simpler life back then = and they=20 didn=92t have all the troubles we have now. It would be = interesting to=20 know how they would deal with the world today.
  - Rod James says:
    
    December=20 11, 2009 at 1:17 pm
    
    JT, What the hell does drinking coolade mean. That seems to be = your=20 most often seen post can=92t you think of something more = interesting to=20 say?
    
    Reply
- Kevin says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 10:46 am
  
  My guess is that you went through our public education system and = never=20 had a teacher that taught the Communist Program of 1928, which calls = for a=20 worldwide environmental program to bring about their Communist New = World=20 government. I actually had a ninth grade teacher that taught us = about=20 communism and their methods.
  
  Whether it=92s the Fabian Socialists, the Fascists, Communists, = any=20 totalitarian scheme, they use the =93enslave them as we save them=94 = mechanism,=20 taking a crisis, whether real or imagined, to get their preconceived = totalitarian solutions accepted by the public=96it=92s the = solutions, not the=20 crisis that you have to watch out for.
  
  Reply
- AZ Rifleman says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 11:54 am
  
  Sooooo=85 If it=92s legitimate, explain to me why the = consprititorial=20 compulsion to hide data=85Why the paranoid determination not to = engage=20 legitimate scientists in legimitate debate=85 Why the expectation = that we=20 should all just follow along without question=85.Why a few decades = ago were=20 you guys pushing =93Global Cooling=94=85Then =93Global = Warming=94=85Now it=92s =93Climate=20 Change=94=85At least try to make up your mind=85
  
  Reply
  - J C says:
    
    December=20 22, 2009 at 10:54 am
    
    AZ Rifleman=85that=92s the new government policy. Ignore the = peons and=20 their stupid questions. We don=92t have to subject ourselves to = any=20 investigations, and if the peons get restless, we=92ll make a = little show of=20 investigating ourselves. That should hold those stupid sheep for a = while=85now throw another panic attack at them and they=92ll = forget all about=20 the scandal of the day.
    Such is the regard our elected = officials have=20 for us.
    
    Reply
- dog says:=20
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 12:21 pm
  
  Global warming has always been a Hoax, worse than watergate. It = has cost=20 us citizens jobs and money and has added trillions to the deficiet = all=20 beacuse of a lie from a bunch of communists trying to take over the = world by=20 making us poor. Every time Al GOre opened his pie hole, with another = lie,=20 our oil and gas prices went up therefor crippling our economy. SHAME = ON THE=20 LEFT, GET SOME COMMON SENSE!!!!!
  
  Reply
  - Don says:=20
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 6:05 pm
    
    Dog, give some examples.
    
    Reply
- MJ says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 12:52 pm
  
  AS Green,
  I have read probably one hundred or so of the = e-mails and=20 fully half of them show one type of non-scientific behavior or = another. The=20 people in question are recognized as the world=92s authorities on = global=20 warming and their behaviors look to be ideologically oriented and = focused on=20 money. You say man-made global warming is a fact. Although this is = true it=20 is not to the extend you ambulance chasers say. You say a few = e-mails. Don=92t=20 insult my ability to read and comprehend as I have read over one = hundred of=20 them and am amazed at their content. You talk about those in power = having a=20 =93better understanding.=94 That =93better understanding=94 can = easily be translated=20 as ideological agreement. Finally, taking 12 tree trunks out of the = total=20 sample of 34 and using them to determine the hockey stick is bad a=20 statisical approach. There are many other things that can affect the = tree=20 rings including, moisture, nutrients, weather, etc.
  Man-made = global=20 warming that is dangerous to the earth is born out of establishment = science.=20 This is the same science that has been promulgated over the last one = hundred=20 years that does not use the scientific method.
  
  Reply
- Carol says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 1:11 pm
  
  This article makes me ill as well because if they keeping saying = this we=20 will lose everything that God gave to us for free much sooner than = later and=20 that is fact.
  Look at the poor Polar Bears they are dying off a = such=20 rapid rate that soon there will be none left what is scarey we = can=92t turn=20 off this damage in some cases it is way to late and some cases it = was to=20 late so many years ago.
  If man thinks that we are better than = every=20 animal that God put on earth soon there will be nothing left to eat = but=20 ourselves and I bet nobody have thought that way but I have and I = hope=20 everybody thinks that way before it is to late.
  
  Reply
  - Sally says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 1:51 pm
    
    Carol, the number of polar bears have actually increased. You = seem like=20 a very sweet and caring person and I hate the way that people like = me, who=20 try to convince folks that global climate change is not man-made = are=20 somehow uncaring. I care VERY much about my fellow humans and I = don=92t want=20 to see them enslaved by big government. Please take time to read = all the=20 controls and taxes which will come out of this Copenhagen Treaty. = Believe=20 me the polar bears will not be affected at all by the Treaty, but = YOU=20 will!
    
    Reply
    - American Citizen = says:
      
      December=20 10, 2009 at 10:08 am
      
      The polar bear population is actually increasing. Don=92t buy = the lies=20 of the left. As for the ice shrinking forcing them to swim, they = always=20 swim. It=92s what they do. The polar ice is actually thidkening. = The bergs=20 are getting so heavy, they shed. That=92s what you see falling, = not do to=20 warming/melting. Geological scientists are debunking the global = warming=20 theories. They do actual on-site tests instead of using computer = models.=20 Those are only as good as the info fed into them.
      
      Reply
  - jbird says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 2:20 pm
    
    Here=92s some truth about the polar bears:
    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/05/09/the-precarious-state= -of-the-u-s-polar-bear-population/
    
    Reply
    - Claire says:
      
      December=20 10, 2009 at 8:21 pm
      
      Someone said a person couldn=92t believe everything they read = on the=20 internet either.
      
      Reply
    - J C says:
      
      December=20 21, 2009 at 8:33 am
      
      The people of Churchill Manitoba are walking their kids to = school=20 with rifles. That would be because of the higher than average = Polar Bear=20 population.
      
      Reply
  - Dan-o says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 3:13 pm
    
    You talk about God like he=92s pretty small, either your God is = man made=20 or it=92s just a word you use, but my God is are creator of all = things and=20 is incontrol of all things. injoy the life on earth he gave you = but it is=20 not your home.
    
    Reply
    - Curtis S says:
      
      December=20 9, 2009 at 9:11 pm
      
      Well DUH! All God=92s are man-made. All gods are created to = control the=20 sheep, isn=92t that why you all parrot =93the lord is my = shephard=94 every=20 Sunday? lol.
      
      Reply
      - Dan-o says:
        
        December=20 9, 2009 at 10:11 pm
        
        When death seeks you I=92m sure you will be questioning = weather=20 you=92ve made the right decision, and vary scared of what = awaits=20 you.
      - DaveH says:
        
        December=20 9, 2009 at 10:49 pm
        
        Curtis,
        Scientists fill the role that churches used to = fill.
      - Fed Up Gal in = NM says:
        
        December=20 9, 2009 at 11:27 pm
        
        Curtis S,
        
        Hmmmm=85..maybe in that quagmire you call =93your=94 brain! = Too bad that=20 it may really be too late (for you), when you finally get a = clue. How=20 sad for you.
        
        Fed Up Gal
  - J C says:
    
    December=20 22, 2009 at 10:57 am
    
    People in northern Canada are now walking their children to = school with=20 rifles because of the threat caused by the increased number of = Polar=20 Bears. This has also happened in the past for brief = periods.
    Remember,=20 if you heard it from the Main Stream Media, its probably = =93spin=94. Do your=20 own research.
    
    Reply
- Greg says:=20
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 2:11 pm
  
  =93Man-made =91global-warming=92 is a =91fact.=92=94
  
  While we=92re spouting off useless assertions of =93fact,=94 = let=92s add in=20 =93Darwinian-Evolution is a scientific-fact,=94 =93homosexuality is=20 genetically-determined,=94 =93All, and only, whites are racist,=94 = =93Islam is a=20 religion of =91peace,=92=94 =93Obama is not a liar nor a = socialist-marxist=94 .. .. ..=20 Gee, I know I=92ll think of more if I had more time.
  
  However, all of these socialist-liberal assertions, like yours = about=20 phony =93man-made global-warming=94 is contrary to all documented = facts,=20 scientifically, sociological, biologically, philosophically, = historically,=20 or otherwise.
  
  But what are facts, anyway? Just things, like the U.S. = Constitution and=20 TRUTH, that get in the way of the liberal-socialist delusional = agenda.
  
  Reply
  - Don says:=20
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 6:14 pm
    
    Greg, the way you stated your response is that the US = Constitution is=20 only for a few.
    
    Reply
  - Curtis S says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 9:21 pm
    
    Greg do you wake-up every single day and decide to be = heterosexual? You=20 see the rest of us just know. We are genetically programmed to be = straight=20 or gay. Sounds like you=92re conflicted. Darwinian evolution has = been proven=20 to be true (read-up on the fascinating story about the nerve that = runs to=20 a giraffe=92s vocal cords) and PBS documented the fraud that the = Intelligent=20 Design lunacy was all along. However, I agree with your opinion on = Islam=20 being the religion of peace. How does a religion of peace endorse=20 jihad?
    
    Reply
    - coal miner says:
      
      December=20 10, 2009 at 1:25 pm
      
      Curtis,
      
      I am agnostic,I came from a red neck pentecostal = background,all=20 religions are based on frauds and myths.I stated earlier that my = mother=20 came up with all kinds of absurdies about other people and = religions,it=20 would put Archie Bunker to shame.If it was a T.V. show,people = still=20 being watching it.She had tongue like viper a brutal out look = towards=20 any one that wasn=92t pentecostal.A catholc family moved into = our=20 neighborhood. They soon became victims because of this silly = bigotry and=20 ignorance.They soon moved out.This happen when I was about = fourteen or=20 fifteen years old.I am seventy-eight now,it seems like it happen = yesterday.Here are some of her religious insanities and = bigotries.
      
      1:Jews can=92t spit,because they spat on Christ.
      2: When a = Catholic=20 girl gets married;she had to sleep with the priest the first = night in=20 order to purified the marriage.
      3:All churches that weren=92t = Pentecostal,she call them infidels.
      4:Blacks were children of = Cain:She said ,when Cain killed his brother Abel.God put the = curse of=20 black and put him on all fours,send him to the land of = Nod,therefore he=20 would know his wife.She wasn=92t the only religious nut at that = time,there=20 were others.She passed away at the age of 105.
      
      Reply
      - libertytrain = says:
        
        December=20 10, 2009 at 3:42 pm
        
        Your mom was more than likely taught by her parents or some = other=20 authority =96 sadly, there=92s always been a whole of lot of=20 misinformation about so many issues =96 I know I=92ve fought = one silly gal=20 a couple of times on Catholic issues that I do have a good = grasp on =96=20 yet she continued to push whatever her peculiar mind chose to = believe=20 =96 she claims to be a Baptist and born again =96 so she would = know more=20 than me about the Catholic doctrine, etc. =96 at least in her = mind =96 I=92m=20 sure someone had showed her the way she chooses to expound = doctrine on=20 religions different than hers =96 forgive your mom =96 she = didn=92t know=20 what she was saying -
      - coal miner = says:
        
        December=20 10, 2009 at 5:33 pm
        
        Liberity,
        
        My mother=92s parents were also pentecostal,they were a = good and kind=20 people.They how ever were set in their ways,they never believe = in=20 television or electricity.They had Coal oil lamps in which = they read=20 their bible.I had never hear either one of my grandparents = said=20 anything bad about anyone.My mother might a got her bigotry = and racial=20 hatred from other pentecostal churches. She drove my father to = have a=20 heart attack,he was seventy-two.She told the preacher it = wouln=92t do=20 him any good to preach over him he is already in hell.I = couldn=92t get=20 over how cold and cruel she was. Dad and I were both = coalminers and=20 devout unions members.I miss my father very much,as for my = mother,I=20 think no one,including me is going to miss her.All this woman = has ever=20 brought, is nothing but pain and misery
      - libertytrain = says:
        
        December=20 11, 2009 at 7:15 am
        
        coal miner =96 sorry =96 it=92s tough to have those kind of = memories =96 My=20 best to you -
      - Claire says:
        
        December=20 11, 2009 at 1:11 pm
        
        Coal Miner- my heart goes out to you too. Childhood should = be happy=20 memories. I try to never think about mine. Occasionally I do = if I am=20 at a weak moment. But I try to think of the good times I had = with my=20 dog and at school. Like libertytrain said=96forgive her.
- Robertaa Bogner = says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 5:59 pm
  
  A couple things:
  
  1. Please google the name of the astrophysicist =93Piers = Corbyn.=94
  2.=20 When I was in high school in the 1970=92s, global cooling was the = big=20 fear.
  3. A little-noticed article in a newspaper in the late = 1980=92s/early=20 1990=92s stated that the US National Atmospheric Lab was raided by = the feds,=20 and data taken. Why?
  4. Another article (within a year of #3) = told the=20 story that the government was removing climate articles from = libraries=20 across the US. Why?
  5. The ozone hole pre-dates the invention of = the=20 automobile. And NOAA weather frequently gives the record hi or low = temps,=20 and they frequently are before the widespread use of the = automobile.
  
  I think we are just in the midst of a bad 60-year cycle, and have = lived=20 long enough to see it in action.
  
  Reply
  - Disgusted says:
    
    December=20 10, 2009 at 2:19 pm
    
    Robertaa. I would be interested in reading those articles, do = you have=20 more information on what papers they were published in? I remember = the=20 ozone being depleted because of arisol cans way before the = automobile took=20 their place since companies spent billions of dollars revamping = their=20 products to eliminate them. Did it help? Now we are on to other = things=20 being the cause.
    I too believe this is a natural cycle of the=20 planet.
    
    Reply
    - DaveH says:
      
      December=20 10, 2009 at 6:28 pm
      
      Disgusted,
      There are many rumors that Dow and others stood = to gain=20 mightily by the outlawing of R-12 (Freon-12). In the case of = Dow, their=20 patent was expiring soon, and one rumor has it that they lobbied = to get=20 the Freon-12 outlawed so they could supply a newly patented = refrigerant=20 molecule. And of course the companies that manufactured the new=20 refrigeration systems that would handle the newer refrigerants = also=20 stood to gain.
      So was the Ozone Depletion yet another = political=20 football? You decide.
      http://reason.com/blog/2007/09/27/ozone-hole-science-revis= ited
      
      Reply
      - DaveH says:
        
        December=20 10, 2009 at 6:30 pm
        
        Another link:
        http://www.rense.com/politics6/mythmnmade.htm
- Daffodilly says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 7:07 pm
  
  The geologic history of our planet has revealed that the climate = as well=20 as the land masses on the face of the planet have been constantly = changed=20 ever since the planet began.
  Once upon a time the entire planet = was=20 covered with snow and ice.
  That has been followed by a continual = cycle of=20 global warming and cooling right up to today.
  None of those = cycles have=20 been caused by human activity.
  This is part of the geological = history of=20 this planet.
  It is a natural occurrence.
  Earlier in the = planet=92s=20 history, there was no atmosphere or climate.
  Much later on after = our time=20 on this planet is over, there will no longer be an atmosphere or a=20 climate.
  In the meantime, the planet will continue on its busy = way no=20 matter what any of us human do or don=92t do.
  Relax and enjoy = life as we=20 know it on the planet now and don=92t try to do the = impossible.
  Attempting=20 to control the climate would be just as foolhardy as trying to empty = out the=20 ocean with a thimble.
  
  Reply
  - Dan-o says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 9:40 pm
    
    Now who could read that with out saying it make total logical=20 sence.
    It appears alot of people lack comon sence and logic = plus add=20 the ability to be easily brain washed and bam! you get a Liberal=20 Democrat.
    
    Reply
- Tim says:=20
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 9:35 pm
  
  Amazing what the untrain public believes. Being a professional = Geologist=20 the rest of the world has no comprehension into the complexities of = the=20 geologic cycle. Wake up world, there is no global warming and = according to=20 libraries of data we are actually heading towards the next ice age. = Global=20 warming is the biggest money making scam in the history of the = planet.
  
  Reply
- Michael says:=20
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 9:51 pm
  
  You sir, are simply a moron. To debate you-someone who has = already made=20 up their mind, which is the antithesis of true scientific = investigation, is=20 like arguing with an idiot.
  I recomend you take a deep breath, = leave your=20 bias at home, and reexamine this subect before condeming yourself, = your=20 family, and the rest of us to the enormous costs of this = proposal.
  Just=20 think about it for a minute, virtually everything your buy at the = store-any=20 store will have this cost added to it-EVERYTHING.
  I say no, HELL = NO!
  
  Reply
- American Citizen = says:
  
  December=20 10, 2009 at 9:53 am
  
  There is no such thing as a consensus of scientists as to global = warming.=20 There are thousands who say we are actually entering a cooling = period. In=20 the 1970=92s we were supposed to be in a cooling period, then in the = 80=92s they=20 started talking about global warming. The climate is always in flux = as those=20 of us who are senior citizens can tell you. We=92ve had warm winters = as well=20 as very cold winters during our lifetimes. We have had one of the = coolest=20 summers on record this year. What they=92ve found is that those = scientists who=20 say =93global warming=94 will not enter any data that contradicts = their=20 theories.
  
  Reply
- TC Patriot says:
  
  December=20 14, 2009 at 1:21 pm
  
  ASGreen You and Big Al should go live somewhere else. Better yet = why=20 don=92t you two go get married you LIERS AND FRAUDS. Go get a real = life !
  
  Reply
- J C says:=20
  
  December=20 18, 2009 at 8:43 am
  
  Garbage! And quit tring to dictate what is good for society. In = that=20 regard your opinion is as valid as the IPCC=85.which is to say = worthless.
  
  Reply
- John says:=20
  
  December=20 20, 2009 at 2:01 pm
  
  Over the last 2,000 years the earth has been cooling with regular = fluctuations of temperature around the declining trend line. The = recent=20 warming period is well within the normal range AND there has been = actual=20 global cooling for the past 10 years which Michael Mann could not = explain,=20 called a =93travesty=94 and tried to erase. So much for science. = =20 The whole thing is a politically-motivated scam to frighten the = people into=20 giving up their freedoms and property while a few elite profit from = the=20 hoped-for coming policies and regulations. This is a confidence game = and we=20 are the intended suckers.
  
  Reply
- BUZZ in the bunker = says:
  
  December=20 20, 2009 at 2:45 pm
  
  FACT: Since 1998 the Earth has been cooling. This cooling has = been rapid=20 and significant. buy some extra longjohns ASGreen, you=92re going to = need=20 them
  
  Reply
Johnnyrite says:

December=20 9, 2009 at 12:11 am

I agree with ASM. It=92s the radicals on the right and their Ludite = opposition to new and =93clean=94 technologies which threaten all of = us.

Myers needs to be strapped into a chair and forced to watch Al = Gore=92s=20 brilliant film, An Inconvenient Truth. Maybe that would sobre him = up!

Reply
- Bob says:=20
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 7:55 am
  
  Have you totally lost the ability to think? It is =93science=94 = not=20 speculation. If the scientific data demonstrates global warming = caused by=20 man =96 I accept it and we should be responding appropriately. If, = however,=20 the scientists are manipulating the data =96 it cannot be trusted. = What is=20 hard to understand about this?
  
  Reply
- Disgusted says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 8:20 am
  
  You Johnnyrite have fallen hook, line and sinker. If Al Gore is = so right=20 then why does he live in a home that uses no clean energy? He is in = this for=20 the money and notariety (they should take back his nobel peace = prize). He=20 couldn=92t win the election so he is trying to make a soap box for = himself and=20 boy did he find a box and a following! Just proves how gullible we=20 American=92s are! Look how many fell for Obama=92s bull!
  
  Reply
  - Raggs says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 9:15 am
    
    Yeah Al Gore the millionaire behind all of this BS..
    Acorn / = SEIU=20 behind =93wealth-care=94.
    
    Over 10% of this country is unemployed, There is another 15-20% = retired.. and yet another 15% too young to work..
    Do the = math=85 That=20 leaves only around 50% of this population to pay for this = senceless=20 hoax.
    
    Reply
    - bobj says:
      
      December=20 9, 2009 at 7:19 pm
      
      Just one more thing, of those 50% left to pay the bill, 40% = work for=20 the government. Now do the math again!
      
      Reply
  - Carol says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 1:16 pm
    
    I don=92t care where Al Gore lives or doesn=92t live all I care = about he=20 brought things up that everyone should listen to not that he is = 100%=20 correct but now we see what is going on and that all that is = important and=20 now we are going to have to help every animal and by the way we = are=20 animals and require food to live and at the rate we are going = killing off=20 the animals we depend upon for life are dying off we are going to = have=20 nothing to eat but ourselves think about it.
    
    Reply
    - Dan-o says:
      
      December=20 9, 2009 at 3:18 pm
      
      Try some vegies Carol
      
      Reply
    - Pat R says:
      
      December=20 9, 2009 at 6:13 pm
      
      Carol:
      
      Why did God put animals here? For Food!!
      
      Get your head out of the sand and read your BIBLE; instead of = just
      whining!
      
      Reply
      - Curtis S says:
        
        December=20 9, 2009 at 9:30 pm
        
        Why is it that the average eight year old can figure out = that Santa=20 Claus doesn=92t exist, but grown adults still spew their = religious=20 nonsense? Your parents lied about Santa, but you=92ll accept = the same=20 concept when its dressed-up as god. It shows how = indoctrination=20 (Sunday schools, madrassas,etc )at a young age can subvert = even=20 intelligent people.
      - Dan-o says:
        
        December=20 9, 2009 at 10:03 pm
        
        So Curtis you think when you die it=92s just over, done, = finished.=20 your inner soul isn=92t telling you theirs more to it than = this vary=20 short life here on earth, but yet on this earth is a = intricite,=20 delicate, and orchestrated system that Darwin couldn=92t even=20 explain.
      - DaveH says:
        
        December=20 9, 2009 at 10:57 pm
        
        You know Curtis, I am Athiest. But I would rather be with = religious=20 people any day over being with Liberals. At least the = religious people=20 are striving to respect their fellow human being. The Liberals = just=20 want to steal our money and force us to follow them over a = cliff. No=20 Thanks.
      - Rod James = says:
        
        December=20 9, 2009 at 11:43 pm
        
        Ya! Get your head out of the bible and eat a puffer = fish.
      - Curtis S says:
        
        December=20 10, 2009 at 6:03 pm
        
        Dan-O =96 Yes I believe death is final. Ashes to ashes, = dust to dust=20 and all that stuff. Or call it recycling. Of course, I might = opt to be=20 cremated just to up the CO2 levels a little bit. I believe = life is=20 finite and the best and only way to an afterlife is to be = remembered.=20 An afterlife is a false promise, it=92s wishful thinking sold = to serfs=20 and vassals in the middle ages (and the poor throughout the = ages) to=20 give their miserable lives a little hope and keep them under=20 control.
      - Claire says:
        
        December=20 10, 2009 at 6:54 pm
        
        I believe in food for the table, however, I do not believe = in=20 killing animals for the fun of it.
      - J C says:
        
        December=20 18, 2009 at 8:46 am
        
        I agree, I hunt for the meat, never for trophies or fun. = And guess=20 what? My cholesterol is very low. It=92s a healthier = alternative.
    - Claire says:
      
      December=20 9, 2009 at 7:15 pm
      
      Carol=96Thank you for your post. I am a believer in = protecting=20 America=92s land, her wildlife, and all the beautiful parks, = forests,=20 rivers, etc. A lot of our lakes and rivers are polluted due to = the=20 carelessness of some industrial companies. I also believe we do = have=20 climate change. Tornado alley has become a much wider path. = Tornadoes in=20 January, February, March? We were hit in March 2006. We had bad = storms=20 in the past but now they are tornadoes. As I have told others, = you have=20 a right to your opinion, do not be afraid to voice them and = stand up for=20 what you believe.
      
      Reply
      - American = Citizen says:
        
        December=20 10, 2009 at 10:18 am
        
        Some of this is due to cutting in the rain forests. Cut = down too=20 many trees and you change the paths of storms. It=92s time for = the=20 governments to do some preservations of the forests all over = the=20 world. That also takes care of the so-called CO2 problems.
      - Claire says:
        
        December=20 10, 2009 at 6:53 pm
        
        American Citizen=96thank you for your post. It is good to = know there=20 are some people out there with comments like yours. I believe = you care=20 about our earth.
      - J C says:
        
        December=20 18, 2009 at 8:49 am
        
        Claire, my feeling is that more responsible stewardship is=20 necessary. That includes preserving rainforest=92s. They are = absolutely=20 necessary to our well being. I do NOT believe in any of what = the=20 Reverend and multi millionnaire Al Gore is saying though. = Considering=20 all he says is more than debatable I believe its a scam and a = hoax.=20 Not to mention its been done before.
  - Greg says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 2:14 pm
    
    =93Disgusted=94: I agree with you. One added note: did you ever = think that=20 THE reason Gore fought so hard to overthrown the legal outcome of = the 2000=20 Presidential Election is because he would be in a better position = to push=20 this hoax on us and rake in his potential billions of dollars he = is poised=20 to make via his structured investment portfolio if this = =93man-made global=20 warming=94 HOAX is ever funded by the United States at taxpayer = expense?
    
    Reply
    - Fed Up Gal in NM = says:
      
      December=20 9, 2009 at 11:35 pm
      
      Greg,
      
      Good point! I never thought of it that way, but in = hindsight=85.the=20 dots sure seem to connect now! He=92s such a hypocrit; not to = mention a=20 smilin=92 cat=85=85never trust smilin=92 cats!
      
      Fed Up Gal
      
      Reply
      - American = Citizen says:
        
        December=20 10, 2009 at 10:20 am
        
        You=92re right gal, just like smilin=92 alligators. Don=92t = be takin=92 n=20 by the smlin=92 grin, they=92re imagining how well you=92d fit = within their=20 skin.
  - Don says:=20
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 6:21 pm
    
    Gore changed over to Solar on his house. I got this from the = Hannity=20 show.
    
    Reply
    - DaveH says:
      
      December=20 9, 2009 at 10:59 pm
      
      That proves his veracity. Not!
      
      Reply
    - Fed Up Gal in NM = says:
      
      December=20 9, 2009 at 11:42 pm
      
      Don,
      
      How much you want to bet=85=85he probably gets royalties from = the solar=20 company he purchased from. How do you say H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T in = Liberal=20 talk?!!!!! Seems it=92s pronounced H-Y-P-E!!!! Go figure.
      
      Fed Up Gal
      
      Reply
    - American Citizen = says:
      
      December=20 10, 2009 at 10:21 am
      
      He only changed when he was called on his hypocrisy.
      
      Reply
  - Fed Up Gal in NM = says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 11:33 pm
    
    Disgusted,
    
    Um huh! You said it=85..so very well! Hard to argue with the = truth, but=20 I=92m sure they=92ll still try. Thanks for your thoughts!
    
    Fed Up Gal
    
    Reply
  - J C says:
    
    December=20 22, 2009 at 10:59 am
    
    Disgusted, you=92ve mistaken responsible stewardship for = radical=20 communist ideas. One we can believe in, the other is a hoax.
    
    Reply
- DaveH says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 10:27 am
  
  =93Myers needs to be strapped into a chair and forced to watch Al = Gore=92s=20 brilliant film, An Inconvenient Truth. Maybe that would sobre him=20 up!=94
  You are truly evil Johnnyrite. LOL. That would be a fate = worse than=20 the death sentence. By the way, would you be supplying the barf = bags?
  
  Reply
  - Don says:=20
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 6:24 pm
    
    Myers said to buy Arch coal which pollutes the air, so he is = for CO2.=20 You guys should be praising him.
    
    Reply
  - Joe H. says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 6:48 pm
    
    DaveH,
    Ah yes, Al Gore of the famous GoreBull warming!!! The = man=20 that has made 300,000,000 since leaving office. Nope he wouldn=92t = cause a=20 hoax, what reason would he have?? Maybe good ole=92 money????
    
    Reply
- Earlw says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 10:56 am
  
  Excuse Me???? Al gore spends $30,000 a year for utilities on his=20 non-green house, excuse me, mansion, while Bush, as reprehensible as = he may=20 be, Just built a new completely green,i.e. solar/high-efficient=20 furnace/geothermal/ etc. house in Texas=85.So who is the windbag and = who=20 isn=92t??? Eh?? Gore is a complete FRAUD, and a communist, just like = his=20 father, not to mention the friend of the family, Armand Hammer, who = had a=20 factory in the Soviet Union decades ago=85.Might explain why he = decided to be=20 a no-show at the Copenhagen conference=85just can risk media = exposure..
  
  Reply
  - American Citizen = says:
    
    December=20 10, 2009 at 10:24 am
    
    Isn=92t it more like $30,000 a month?
    
    Reply
- Kevin says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 11:00 am
  
  Who doesn=92t love the environment? Who doesn=92t want clean air? = This isn=92t=20 about saving the environment or finding cleaner energy sources. Do = yourself=20 a favor and find a copy of the Communist Program of 1928, or watch = General=20 Parton=92s video, =93The Program=94, and find out why the Communists = wanted a=20 worldwide environmental program to bring about their New World=20 Government.
  
  Reply
  - Greg says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 2:19 pm
    
    YOU ARE SPOT ON. THIS is what is really going on: The = Tryannical One=20 World Global Government. If you understand this Elitist agenda, = then most=20 of world history for the past 200 years makes perfect sense. How = and why=20 the World Wars started, why the U.S. was involved, by the Federal = Reserve=20 Act of 1913 was signed into law, how the Great Depressions was=20 orchestrated, as well as this current =93economic meltdown.=94
    
    As David Rockefeller, principal of the Elites from the = Bilderberg Group=20 and Tri-Lateral Commission (World Governmence Conspirators), once = stated:=20 create a crisis big enough and the masses will surely hand over = their=20 privacy, liberties and money for the false promise of fake peace = and fake=20 security. Basically, the U.S. is doing business with the devil by=20 participating in these Global conferences and =93electing=94 these = One World=20 Communists as President.
    
    Reply
  - J C says:
    
    December=20 18, 2009 at 8:53 am
    
    Dead on! Like all subliminal and covert agenda=92s this one is = wrapped in=20 an emotional and bullet proof vehicle. Really simple people are=20 overwhelmed by a really good picture show. Can you say =93An = inconvenient=20 pack of lies=94?
    
    Reply
- Lena says:=20
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 11:32 am
  
  Oh Johnnyrite, you silly silly man. Don=92t believe everything Al = Gore=20 tells you. That man may recommend that we treat the planet with = respect,=20 when in fact his energy bill exceeds the US average. Must be from = all the=20 smoke he is blowing up your a$$.
  
  Global warming? I don=92t know if it is true, partially true or = an all out=20 lie. I think perhaps if anything the weather gets more extreme in = both=20 climates. Colder winters and hotter summers. That seems to be the = trend I=20 have experienced living in Canada for the past ten years. Record = lows and=20 record highs. But that also mean balance. Therefore lets not start a = panic=20 about the oceans rising just yet. There are other steps people can = take to=20 help out the planet=85 which it definitely needs. Respect the = environment,=20 recycle as much as possible, and do your best not to overuse the = gifts the=20 planet allows us. For every action there is an equal and opposite = reaction.=20 Destroying the planet will have an outcome. May not be the ones = people=20 predict but something will come of it.
  
  Reply
- Brian O says:=20
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 8:14 pm
  
  Hey johnnyrite;
  You might want to re-think your position on = this=20 =93great=94 film.
  There are at least 6 Big Lies in it. That is = why 30,000.=20 plus scientists
  say it=92s false and many are sueing him over it = all over=20 the world.
  
  1- Polar Bears are not dying off they are thriving.
  2- The = =93hockey=20 stick=94 graph has been proven to have been manipulated.
  3-That = big ammount=20 of ice that was melting=85 oops it was a glitch in the satellite=20 transmission.
  4- the very way Gore says C02 is warming the earth = the top=20 climatologists in the world say it dosen=92t work that way.
  I = could go on=20 but if you truly do have an open mind you will research and find the = rest.=20 Just for a laugh why don=92t you try it.
  
  Happy hunting!
  
  Reply
MJ Montana says:

December=20 9, 2009 at 12:25 am

I think Myers should try reading the news out of Copenhagen.

The decade of 2000 to 2009 will be the warmest one since records = began in=20 1850! That is what the World Meteorological Organization says.

In fact 2009 was also the fifth-warmest year on record! Myers needs = to=20 forget the Email junk =97 try and read a thermometer.

Furthermore coal is the very worst solution. Investors should be = morally=20 outraged about buying such a toxic energy source.

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- Joe H. says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 8:45 am
  
  Mj,
  Yeah, but it is based on information that is =93skewed=94 = to give the=20 results they want to try to tear the U.S. down. The majority of the = second=20 rate governments wants the U.S. to be in the same boat that they are = in and=20 they=92ve got you drinkin=92 the drink and talkin=92 the talk!!! = Which, by the=20 way, is bull!!!! And I don=92t care what our resident German = thinks!!!!
  
  Reply
- DaveH says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 10:34 am
  
  The World Meteorological Organization is an agency of the UN. The = same=20 organization that has been trying to assert themselves as our one = world=20 government for the last 30 years. We can trust them to be honest.=20 NOT!
  Here in Northern Arizona, we have had extraordinarily cool=20 temperatures for the last 3 summers.
  I guess these guys are just=20 liars:
  http://www.isthereglobalcooling.com/
  
  Reply
  - Don says:=20
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 6:33 pm
    
    Dave, I went to your article and one of the links said that 8 = out of=20 the last 10 years have been the warmest since the 1920=92s. Again, = I=20 question your source. I don=92t think you even agree with it. You = love=20 misinformation.
    
    Reply
    - DaveH says:
      
      December=20 9, 2009 at 11:03 pm
      
      You=92re funny Don. Been reading Saul Alinsky lately?
      So, = Duh, there=20 is controversy. Real science doesn=92t have controversy because = their=20 results are predictable and repeatable.
      
      Reply
- Greg says:=20
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 2:24 pm
  
  MJ: as stated by the other responders, this is all part of their = hoax and=20 skewed data.
  
  But think about it: let=92s PRETEND that it=92s true, that the = globe is=20 getting warmer (which it is not=96it=92s getting cooler). The = question is: what=20 part of it is MAN-MADE. There is no science behind that part even if = you buy=20 into the hoax that we=92re getting warmer. So PRETENDING that it was = true,=20 THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT.
  
  So why are we discussing spending TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS on it? Oh, = perhaps=20 THAT=92S the reason: THE TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS. Mabye? Could be? Just = might be=20 a wee little teenie-weenie aspect of their motivation to hoodwink us = with=20 this hoax? Can we stretch our imaginations and possibly consider how = TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS might motivate a few key Elites poised to rake = in that=20 money to cast a wee-little hoax on the rest of us?
  
  Reply
- jim says:=20
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 6:23 pm
  
  Hi MJ, How acurate were 1850 thermometers and how diligent were = the=20 record keepers?
  
  Reply
Robin from Indiana = says:

December=20 9, 2009 at 7:11 am

The only people who push this fantasy are the ones who will profit = from it.=20 It=92s a hoax; nothing more; nothing less!

Reply
- Curtis S says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 7:47 am
  
  You mean the coal industry?
  
  Reply
  - DaveH says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 10:39 am
    
    The coal industry and other such natural resource companies = have made=20 many peoples=92 lives better and safer (from winter deaths, etc.). = People=20 buy their products willingly. People don=92t buy government = products=20 willingly; they are forced by law. I will take the voluntary = purchases=20 from the Corporations over the forced purchases (taxes) by Big = Government=20 any day.
    
    Reply
    - Don says:=20
      
      December=20 9, 2009 at 6:35 pm
      
      Dave, then you do agree with Myers. Make up your mind.
      
      Reply
      - DaveH says:
        
        December=20 9, 2009 at 11:06 pm
        
        My statements are consistent. Maybe you need to put on your = reading=20 glasses. If I have something in quotes it is from someone = else=92s=20 comment.
- Joe H. says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 8:46 am
  
  Robin,
  yeah like Gorebull who has made over 300,000,000 = dollars since=20 leaving office on this bull!!!
  
  Reply
Marauder says:

December=20 9, 2009 at 7:25 am

The preposterous idea that we can impact the natural temperature = cycles of=20 this planet is man=92s ultimate conceit, and the global warming hoax = is just=20 another left wingnut scam. Man-made global warming is anything BUT a = fact.=20 Instead of reading the tripe to emanate from Copenhagen, one should = study=20 geology.

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Bill Fox says:

December=20 9, 2009 at 7:28 am

The simple solution for most of the US would be to build = solar/thermal=20 generating plants in the deserts and coast in the West. The cost for = the=20 plants and new transmission grid, which use existing technology, would = be far=20 less than either the cost of the Iraq/Afgan wars or the soon-to-come=20 cap-and-trade emission taxes. We could jump the windmill and natural = gas=20 technology phase, saving $trillions. The energy source is FREE and = produces an=20 average of 18kwh on every square meter of the planet, every day of the = year.=20 This would definitely reduce all that global warming by converting it = into=20 more useful forms energy.

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- Joe H. says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 8:48 am
  
  Bill Fox,
  They tried to build the biggest solar plant in the = world in=20 California and the tree huggers stopped them because of 11 desert = turtles=20 and two flat tailed lizards. Two freakin=92 lizards!!!!!
  
  Reply
  - Sally says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 1:57 pm
    
    HAHAHAHA. I live in CA now and this totally sounds like the = nuts that=20 live here! Too funny =96 and poignant.
    If liberals think humans = are all=20 so bad I personally have no problem if they=92d all like to do = themselves=20 in. I=92m so sick of trying to get them to turn off their TVs and = actually=20 read. I give up!
    
    Reply
- DaveH says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 10:43 am
  
  Free? Wow, I like free. Could you send those guys over to my = house to=20 install those free Solar Panels?
  
  Reply
- Fred says:=20
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 11:40 am
  
  Bill, you=92ve apparently drunk the coolaid.
  
  Solar power is at best an adjunct to regular power sources. No = large=20 solar plant has yet to be found cost effective. It=92s also much = more=20 expensive to maintain, plus solar panels deteriorate and must be = replaced at=20 regular intervals. Distributed systems (such as panels on homes) = could power=20 a TV or two and some lights and a fan on good days, but not much = else.
  
  Natural Gas =97 that=92s a decent source. How is it significantly = different=20 than oil or coal? These are all basically geologically sequestered = carbon=20 based energy sources based upon dead life forms from eons ago =97 = times when=20 there was more C02 and life was apparently very abundant=85 It=92s = also possible=20 (although an energy waste) for oil and perhaps coal to be refined = into=20 natural gas=85 So hows that work for you? Perhaps it would be more = cost=20 effective to just repackage this energy sources as =91natural oil=92 = and=20 =91natural coal=92? They=92re from nature after all.
  
  Recycling Nuclear =97 there=92s a real solution. Get rid of the = 1970s=20 nutroots restriction on public nuclear plants recycling fuel rods = back into=20 more fuel (like military energy plants have always done) and = you=92ve really=20 got something going. This would eliminate many of the problems of = storage of=20 waste, which could be recycled back into energy uses. Plus one could = recycle=20 decommissioned weapons material into useful power. I=92m surprized = the=20 nutroots haven=92t figured this out =97 the way to get rid of = nuclear bombs is=20 to put all the bomb material into energy. The energy market would = make it=20 increasing difficult to financially justify sequestering energy = material=20 into bombs.
  
  Reply
  - DaveH says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 12:42 pm
    
    Yes, free markets would be the answer to a lot of our problems. = We just=20 need to get government out of the way.
    
    Reply
  - AnhydrousBob says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 10:17 pm
    
    Fred,
    
    Good input on the Nuclear fuel recycle.
    
    I think they have figured it out, Carter was the one to ban = recycling=20 fuel. So why a ban?
    
    France does it, although I think I have read that the French = use one=20 type of recycle setup and there may be an even better one.
    
    Reply
Doug says:=20

December=20 9, 2009 at 7:29 am

The only global warming going on is between these left leaning = terriost=20 butt checks!

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- Joe H. says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 8:49 am
  
  Doug,
  If man is causing global warming, I=92ll bet 98% is = caused by all=20 the hot air coming from Washington D.C.!!!!
  
  Reply
T-bone Radical says:

December=20 9, 2009 at 7:31 am

Wow, I thought this was a right winged site. It appears the left = has=20 invaded. I don=92t think anyone knows the facts about Global = warming=85..there=20 simply isn=92t enough data. Add the billions of dollars to be made by = those with=20 investments in Green Tech (Al Gore)and all of a sudden there=92s a = urgent=20 demand. Scientists have also revealed Mother Earth has had a history = of being=20 much warmer in the past. How do you Green geeks explain that. I=92m = guessing=20 dinosaur passing gas and contaminating the atmosphere with Methane. = There=92s a=20 whole lot of that in Washington. Trusting the political Right or Left = and=20 their rhetoric is stupid. None of them listen to what the people want. = Global=20 warming is just another way to raise taxes.

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- RHSchumann says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 9:29 am
  
  The money to be made by those who advocate Green technology is = peanuts=20 compared to the billions made by oil and coal companies. Billions in = profit=20 which they stand to lose if Green technology takes over. In = addition, much=20 of the coal remaining in the USA can be extracted only by mountain = top=20 removal (which in reality is a criminal act) and mining oil shale = and oil=20 sands out West and a horrendous cost to the environment. Fact is, we = will=20 eventually run out of fossil fuels and oil is much too valuable to = burn.=20 Future generations will condemn us for it.
  
  Reply
  - DaveH says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 10:46 am
    
    RH,
    Eventually we will. But why pay more before that = happens? The=20 difference is that consumers have a choice now. They won=92t have = a choice=20 when Big Government takes over.
    
    Reply
    - Don says:=20
      
      December=20 9, 2009 at 7:00 pm
      
      Dave you are correct. Dick Cheney had the big oil companies = set our=20 energy policies for our big government.
      
      Reply
      - DaveH says:
        
        December=20 9, 2009 at 11:10 pm
        
        Don,
        I live in the present. Politicians from both = parties have=20 contributed to our government=92s growth. But right now the = Democrat=20 leaders are totally out of control. That=92s okay with me, = because they=20 unintentionally are waking up the citizens. It=92s about = time.
  - R=20 Jenkins says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 1:36 pm
    
    You don=92t have a clue. In the first place, you have to know = how much=20 profit an oil company makes? For how many oil companies do you = have that=20 information? Do you know which oil companies have made a profit = and how=20 much they made? Do you know which ones have not made a profit and = how much=20 they lost? In the second place you need to know how much = investement was=20 required to make those profits. Tell me, what is ExxonMobil=92s = total=20 investment? Surely you know the answer. How are you able to = suggest that=20 any oil company makes too much profit if you don=92t know how much = they have=20 invested. I suggest you do not use that approach with your own=20 investments. If you are so smart, and your arrogant statements = would=20 suggest that you consider yourself very smart indeed, tell me why = so many=20 refineries have closed over the past couple of years if they are = so=20 profitable. Do you know why? Surely you know the answer.
    
    Reply
    - Don says:=20
      
      December=20 9, 2009 at 7:14 pm
      
      I=92m a part time investor, and I don=92t have the answers to = all your=20 questions. Yes, they do invest a lot of money, but they do make=20 billions. They make more money than any other company. This is = what is=20 reported, and they have never denied it. One of their biggest = problem is=20 buying rigs. Other countries have been in the position to order = these=20 rigs and the companies that deliver oil to us are playing the = waiting=20 game on getting their rigs. It is not about exploring right now, = it is=20 about getting rigs to explore. My source is Crammer and = magazines that=20 deal with investing.
      
      Reply
      - DaveH says:
        
        December=20 9, 2009 at 11:17 pm
        
        The oil companies struggled for a couple of decades. Yes, = they are=20 making money now, but why not? That=92s what they are in = business for.=20 I=92m semi-retired now, but in my prime I was paying over = $20,000 a year=20 just on Income Taxes. I maybe at most paid $2000 a year on my = energy=20 expenditures and a large part of that bill is due to numerous = hidden=20 energy taxes. Let=92s see, who should I admire, the government = or the=20 energy companies. Not a hard question for me.
    - Curtis S says:
      
      December=20 10, 2009 at 6:15 pm
      
      R Jenkins =96 You ask =93tell me why so many refineries have = closed over=20 the past couple of years if they are so profitable=94 that=92 = simple, basic=20 supply and demand economics. Reduction of the supply = automatically=20 increases demand. Increase demand =3D increase in price =3D = increase in=20 profits. Not really a big mystery or nor a conspiracy.
      
      Reply
  - Joe H. says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 6:55 pm
    
    RH Shumann,
    since when is 300,000,000 dollars made by one = person=20 peanuts? I hope you don=92t buy groceries for your house!!!!
    
    Reply
  - Rod James says:
    
    December=20 10, 2009 at 12:27 am
    
    RH. Some good points but we are really in trouble as Peak Oil = passed in=20 1988 and oil production and discovery have fallen steadily = since.With the=20 increased demand (China,India many other countries)in the future = we will=20 not have enough oil for demand SOON.Alternative energies are not = being=20 developed fast enough to fill the need of a new infastructure.Oil=20 companies are not willing (after the financial meltdown) to lay = out=20 eploration costs if there is a chance of a dry hole.If the = government=20 doesn=92t stop spending (bailouts,wars etc.)it will be of no help = in finding=20 a solution to this grave problem (lack of fuel to transport food, = heating=20 oil for example. The past examples of government be it Dem or Rep = make it=20 pretty clear that they are failing the US citizens on many levels = and it=20 will be the =93same old same old=94 keep the carbon based energy = system=20 chugging along and God help us if The Copenhagen Treaty is passed = with us=20 all basically paying carbon taxes up the whazoo!
    
    Reply
    - DaveH says:
      
      December=20 10, 2009 at 9:24 am
      
      Rod,
      Energy markets unfettered by the heavy hand of = government=20 would solve these issues the best they can be solved. Due to the = desire=20 of investors to make money on their capital (a good thing) money = pours=20 into promising projects in free markets. Since it is their skin = in the=20 game, they will be much more likely to carefully scrutinize = those=20 investments than would be the government with the same amount of = money.=20 As oil production declines, money would be moving to promising=20 alternative energy projects. The best chance we have for energy = success=20 is to get the government out of the energy markets.
      
      Reply
      - Rod James = says:
        
        December=20 10, 2009 at 11:00 pm
        
        HaveH, I agree just like they should be out of alot of = other areas=20 but how do you do that when they have a whole system of=20 laws,media,finance,
        politics etc at their disposal.Oh Ya! = and lots=20 of guys with guns,bombs, missles etc.
John Gault says:=20

December=20 9, 2009 at 7:33 am

These are the =93Same=94 fool=92s that clamed that the next Comin = gof the ICE AGE=20 back in the mid 60=92s. Follow the Money you fool=92s!!! If we rolled = back all of=20 our =93Foot Print=94 like you want we would be back in the mid = 1800=92s. Maybe even=20 more with the amount of NEW People we have added over thelast few = yewr=92s. So,=20 should we START KILLING PEOPLE FOR THIS ALSO???? = FOOL=92S!!!!!!!!!!!!

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- American Citizen = says:
  
  December=20 10, 2009 at 10:38 am
  
  And if we go backwards, which we are, what did they use for fuel = and=20 energy? Mostly coal and wood. A lot of people are using wood now as = the air=20 at night around here is hardly to be breathed, it=92s so full of = smoke. People=20 are resorting to fireplaces and wood stoves as fuel for hear is = already=20 expensive. We just had a raise in our electric bill.
  
  Reply
LucifersHammer says:

December=20 9, 2009 at 7:36 am

To those who are maligning the article. I agree that we all must do = something to reasonably keep out local environments clean. However, in = regards=20 to coal, much advance has been made over the years in clean coal-fired = technology. A FACT which many choose to ignore. It is easy to ride the = wave of=20 supposed intellectual guidance from politicians and celebrities who = espouse=20 the anthropogenic effect upon the worlds climate. I agree that GLOBAL = WARMING,=20 non-anthropogenic, was a fact. If you research the data effectively, = you will=20 find that we are now at a level of AVERAGE GLOBAL temperature circa = 1979 when=20 the pundits screamed, =93we=92re going into an ice age=94. The average = global temp=20 has been steadily dropping since 2000. Why do you think it is now = called=20 =93climate change=94??? As to an anthropogenic cause, get a life! Our = planet puts=20 out more pollutants in a year than mankind does in less than 1/2 a = day!=20 Studies of ice cores, seafloor sediments, even lake sediments indicate = that=20 the climate has reversed in a cyclic manner over and over again long = before we=20 =93enlightend=94 humans began our rampage upon earth. And since, by = such data=20 aforementioned, we know that 800-1200 A.D.(not C.E. as political = correctness=20 itself is a fraud), was several degrees warmer than we achieved this = time=20 around. Do your research, quit listening to the pundits and gain a bit = of=20 knowledge outside the biased and politically driven media and = associated=20 scientists. But be careful, knowing the other sides data may be = harmful to=20 your ego.

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- Disgusted says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 8:03 am
  
  Couldn=92t have said it better and couldn=92t agree more.
  
  Reply
- Joe H. says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 8:51 am
  
  Hammer,
  There are scrubbers they can put on coal plants that = will make=20 them burn almost as clean as nuke plants!!!
  
  Reply
  - American Citizen = says:
    
    December=20 10, 2009 at 3:31 pm
    
    Here in Indiana they were forced to put scrubbers on years = ago.
    
    Reply
- Paula=20 Shene says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 9:15 am
  
  Exactly!
  
  Reply
- RHSchumann says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 9:35 am
  
  If so much advancement has been made in clean-coal technology, = then why=20 are those who push coal fighting it tooth and nail?
  Yes, it was = warmer a=20 thousand years ago but then vast stretches of currently arable land = were too=20 dry to sustain human civilization. But there were no borders in = Africa and=20 Australia and people could move on to greener pastures. Now = everybody is=20 caught up in national boundaries and mass migrations are = destabilizing=20 entire continents.
  
  Reply
  - Don says:=20
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 7:22 pm
    
    The other side to this clean coal said at best these scrubbers = can=20 clean it by 20% and 80% of the pollutants are still released.
    
    Reply
Frank Verrall says:

December=20 9, 2009 at 7:36 am

I wonder when the American people will wake up to the fact that = Glen Beck=20 is as fake as a $4 dollar note and, is virtually calling the American=20 listeners to the Fox negative network fools ,as I cannot see anyone = with an=20 ounce of intelligence believing the twaddle he turns out at times = while=20 pandering to the paranoia built up by scare mongering.

I will just mention his attitude to the Global Warming/ Climate = Control,=20 debate and meeting in Copenhagen, of course there are people that will = refer=20 to it as =93A junket=94 and yes there will be some waste but = proportionately no=20 more that is wasted elsewhere and there could be good that comes out = of it as=20 there is nobody that believes that human interference has not had = detrimental=20 effect on the planetary conditions and, those that are taken in by = people like=20 Beck must be at least one short of a six pack.

We now have the idea that there is a ground swell of opinion that = there is=20 a =93Tea party=94 in the making and again, if anyone thinks that the = two old=20 parties will allow that they too must be a bit short of grey matter = .

Does America NEED a third party ? Of course they do, but this is = not the=20 time for a =93Tea Party=94 that is like forming a party by default, = because in=20 today=92s political climate, parties are voted OUT not in=94

Just as Sarah Palin is a political opportunist we have Glen Beck = trying to=20 prove that as a person whose country of origin was Marxist, can act = and be a=20 better American than the originals, well, not the real originals, I = mean =93The=20 Pilgrims,=94 those poor persecuted people from the =93Old country =93 = that followed=20 the British penchant for genocide, in their eagerness to subjugate the = conquered, and now through their stupid amendment which allows the = citizenry=20 to carry guns, ostensibly to protect themselves,

The we hear bleating about =93Why do we have these mass shootings = here, we=20 are peace loving people.=94 when they send men to war overseas and = trained to=20 kill then wonder why there are some that cannot kick the habit, = because they=20 are often not given the recognition or the help needed, when they = return,

In his newsletter which I get he touches on =93Glen=92s Hate mail = =91 well I am=20 not a hating person and feel only disappointment that he and a few = others seek=20 to undermine the American public.

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- Bill says:=20
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 8:09 am
  
  Hey Franky Boy, I just happen to be one of the people your = talking about.=20 I spent over half my life defending this Country and it=92s way of = life. Hell=20 yes I own guns and I also own Bibles. Yes I do believe in God, = Country and=20 Guns. Glenn Beck along with all the reporter on FOX and Beck=92s = radio program=20 are all DEAD-ON. Yes, I use my weapons for self defense of myself = and my=20 family and I=92m not afraid to use them. Will I take my guns and run = around=20 killing just for the hell of it, NO. PAL, in case you=92ve never = heard it=20 =93People Kill, Not Guns=94, guns are only a tool just as a mechanic = uses=20 wrenches. Take naway the gun=92s and what do you have then, people = running=20 around with a knife cutting people=92s throat. Take away the knife = what do you=20 have, people running around bashing people=92s skulls with rocks or = choking=20 them to death. Morale of the story is, if a person has it in their = mind to=20 kill, they don=92t need a gun to do it.
  
  Reply
  - DMP says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 8:49 am
    
    RIGHT ON!!!!
    
    Reply
  - Joe H. says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 8:53 am
    
    Frankie,
    you need to remember Cain killed Able with the jaw = bone of=20 an ass!!!
    
    Reply
    - coal miner says:
      
      December=20 11, 2009 at 12:37 pm
      
      JoeH,
      
      The bible didn=92t say how Cain kill Abel.He rose up and slew = him.That=20 was Samson.
      
      Reply
  - Don says:=20
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 7:36 pm
    
    Bill, are you for legalizing drugs? The reason I asked is = because I=20 followed Glen Beck in his earier days when he always talked about = taking=20 drugs and alcohol every day for years until his doctor told him he = will=20 die if he continues this life pattern. If you think he makes = sense, then=20 he would be proof that drugs do not affect our minds. He = occasionally=20 talks about his past, but not as much.
    
    Reply
    - DaveH says:
      
      December=20 9, 2009 at 11:24 pm
      
      Don,
      I haven=92t taken any kind of drug my entire life. I = very=20 rarely have even taken aspirin. And I=92m sure you would agree = that I=92m a=20 little crazy, LOL.
      I believe that it is dumb to do drugs, but = that is=20 the individual=92s choice. The government has no business = protecting us=20 from ourselves. The controls don=92t work anyway. On the other = hand, if=20 the individual does harm to somebody else they should be fully=20 prosecuted whether they are on drugs or not.
      
      Reply
      - Fed Up Gal in = NM says:
        
        December=20 9, 2009 at 11:51 pm
        
        Dave H,
        
        YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nuff said! Thanks (again)!
        
        Fed Up Gal
- Disgusted says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 8:13 am
  
  I am a Beck fan, I watch him every day. I don=92t appreciate your = insulting=20 my intelligence because I choose to listen to someone you don=92t = agree with.=20 Your attitude towards a certain group of people because of who they = choose=20 to listen to is a prime example of why this country is in the = trouble it is=20 in today. You are short sited. Glen Beck speaks it like it is and = has been=20 doing so for a very long time. He is not party specific and only = wants=20 everyone to see that we need to come together as Americans, not = Democrats or=20 Republicans. He will point out someones lies and corruption no = matter what=20 party they fall under and to tell you the truth I want to know when = one of=20 my government representatives is lying to me!
  
  Reply
  - usmadgirl says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 2:22 pm
    
    Amen, Disgusted!
    
    I=92ve watched Glenn since day one! If I miss him at 5:00pm, I = watch him=20 at 2:00am! Until Glenn, I knew our country was going to H#*@ in a = hand=20 basket, but I didn=92t know exactly how all the radicals (Obama, = Pelosi,=20 Reid, Van Jones, Bill Ayers, Cass Sunstein, Mark Lloyd, Carol = Browner,=20 Valerie Jarrett, Anita Dunn, Andy Stearn & SEIU & ACORN, = Jeff=20 Jones & the Apollo Alliance (& on & on) were = connected! People=20 can smear Glenn all they like, but he has no agenda except to = inform =93the=20 people=94 of what=92s taking place with this radical = administration to destroy=20 our economy, our dollar, our Constitution & every aspect of = the=20 country that MOST of us LOVE! He NEVER touches on any issue = without PROOF.=20 I don=92t know anyone who=92s more passionate about where our = country is=20 headed or loves this country & our Constitution more than = Glenn.=20 Progressives are just afraid of him because he=92s informing US of = THEIR=20 agenda to bring us into a One World Government!
    
    I=92m a very conservative Republican & don=92t agree with = his thinking=20 that Republicans have caused as many problems as the Progressive, = Marxist,=20 Saul Alinsky-Mao-loving Democrats (I=92m not talking about old = moderate=20 Democrats like Zell Miller), but other than that, he=92s right on = the money!=20 He is the ONLY person in the media who GETS IT! If people rely on = the=20 =93MessiahStreamMedia=94 for their news, they are uninformed or = misinformed=20 & dumber than a box of rocks. They tell you only what their = =93Savior=94=20 wants you to hear! You=92ll never hear ANYTHING against the = =93Health Care=94,=20 =93saved or created jobs=94, or the =93Climate Change=94 = hoaxes!
    
    The climate has been changing since the beginning of time & = the=20 Creator has taken care of it ever since. What gives goofy Al Gore = &=20 all the other =93climate change=94 liars the right to play = =93God=94? Let God have=20 control of the =93thermostat=94 & we=92ll be just fine. How = many people do=20 you think this administration will require to be eliminated in = order to=20 keep the air we exhale from =93destroying the planet=94? Has = anyone thought=20 about that? I wouldn=92t put ANYTHING past this so-called = president &=20 his evil =93elves=92!
    
    Merry Christmas (not happy holidays nor happy winter =96 it=92s = Christ=92s=20 birthday)!
    
    Reply
    - Curtis S says:
      
      December=20 10, 2009 at 6:26 pm
      
      Yawn. Comparing Glenn Beck to a credible journalist is like = comparing=20 Barrack Obama to a member of the Libertarian Party. The Glenn = Beck show=20 is a daily lesson in false journalism. Running false crowd = footage,=20 rampant speculation, skewed reporting, half truths and things = that were=20 illegal until the FCC was neutered in the 90s.
      
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      - DaveH says:
        
        December=20 10, 2009 at 6:44 pm
        
        Some evidence please.
  - American Citizen = says:
    
    December=20 10, 2009 at 3:36 pm
    
    I first caught Glenn on the radio years ago. He said then about = his=20 problems he had overcome with alcohol. He also has a special needs = child.=20 But what impressed me about him was that he is more about right = and wrong=20 than taking a political side. If you really are a regular listener = to Fox,=20 you=92ll find those guys give both sides hell.
    
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- RHSchumann says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 9:36 am
  
  I can=92t agree with you more!
  
  Reply
- DaveH says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 10:55 am
  
  Frank,
  I have read your comment, and I have listened to Glenn = Beck.=20 Sorry, but he is a lot more real than you are.
  
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- AnhydrousBob says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 10:44 pm
  
  So what are you advocating, Frank? We stop our ears and don=92t = listen to=20 any idea we don=92t like?
  
  Remember when the authorities tried to shut down that guy Galileo = for his=20 heretical ideas? Remember how that silly guy, Albert, was talking = all that=20 relativity stuff? None of the Experts of the day agreed with either = of them,=20 or Kepler, or Copernicus =85
  Either we shut off all ideas, or we = let them=20 flow. Personally, I=92d like to hear them. I=92ll take my time and = figure out=20 which ones fit, and which ones don=92t. And if you sit down with all = those=20 pieces of the puzzle, you=92ll find that, when it comes to the = climate, those=20 AGW pieces just don=92t fit.
  If you aren=92t capable of = processing the info,=20 you better be damn sure that people you believe in are = correct.
  Ask=20 yourself, which side of the aisle would you have been on? Would you = have=20 been on the side of Galileo, or would you have kept to the = consensus.
  
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DOUG from OK says:

December=20 9, 2009 at 7:43 am

Natural Gas is the Logical choice. We have an abundant supply=85it = has a low=20 carbon footprint=85 and the Jobs created to build vehicles and = infastructure=20 would be a =93stimulous Package=94 in and of itself not to mention the = trickle=20 down from the success of the Energy Companies back into the = economy.

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- Joe H. says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 8:55 am
  
  Doug,
  Yup and I need you to go out and replace my gas cars = with=20 natural gas cars. O.K.? Do you know what it would cost this nation = to switch=20 every car over to natural gas?
  
  Reply
- Fred says:=20
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 12:04 pm
  
  Natural gas has about the same carbon footprint as gasoline which = comes=20 from natural oil. In fact, cracking plants (oil refineries that = crack large=20 natural oil molecules into smaller gasoline molecules) can and do = crack=20 natural oil into natural gas and other light natural gases as an = end-product=20 (such as methane and propane).
  
  These volatile gases used to be considered byproducts that were = flamed=20 (burned) at the refinery. Now they are being =91capped=92 and sold. =
  
  Cracking technology could be used to crack natural crude oil into = mostly=20 natural gas or gases, if one wished. FYI, cracking large natural=20 hydrocarbons into smaller natural hydrocarbons is a relatively = energy=20 efficient process that pretty near runs on it=92s own energy. It=92s = just a=20 matter of how far one wishes to crack the crude down what the = products end=20 up being. From natural crude cracking comes tars, waxes, soaps, = plastics,=20 oils, gasoline, propane, ethane, methane and many other = =91natural=92=20 hydrocarbons.
  
  In gasoline, the carbons are all in chains instead of all by = themselves.=20 And yes, there are various =91pollutants=92 in both natural gas and = natural oil.=20 That=92s because all these natural energy sources (including natural = coal)=20 come from dead life forms of some sort. Life forms have P, S, N, and = other=20 molecules besides C, H, & O.
  
  Reply
  - American Citizen = says:
    
    December=20 10, 2009 at 3:38 pm
    
    Everything dies and puts off some kind of gas. How will we stop = that?
    
    Reply
    - DaveH says:
      
      December=20 10, 2009 at 6:46 pm
      
      We won=92t. And we will never be able to control the weather = either,=20 notwithstanding Liberal claims to the contrary.
      
      Reply =
John says:=20

December=20 9, 2009 at 7:48 am

Man made global warming is ridiculous. Unfortunately the scientist = who=20 promote this hoax no longer practice good science. Instead of simply = examining=20 the data before them, they look for data that will support their = belief. And=20 they really reach. This is a dangerous practice which causes scientist = to be=20 blinded to the truth. Scientific research should be an open forum with = free=20 debate and both sides committed to discovering the truth, however that = is not=20 the case when it comes to the topic of =93global warming=94. Or is the = term now=20 climate change because the term global warming didn=92t scare people = enough. Any=20 opposition to the concept is CRUSHED! This should be the first clue. = Grants=20 are withheld, people fired, the opposing voice is silenced. That is = not=20 science, that is politics. In the 60=92s the movement was all about = the=20 impending ICE AGE. There are always some nuts out there. Just ignore = them.

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- DaveH says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 10:59 am
  
  I wish we could =93just ignore them=94. But the fact is that they = are trying=20 to take over our lives with their Hoax.
  
  Reply
  - usmadgirl says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 3:43 pm
    
    Amen, DaveH! Ignoring them is what they WANT us to do so we = won=92t try=20 to shove a stick in their spokes (as if they would notice or care = anyway)!=20 Why is it so complicated (for particularly the =93left=94)to see = the hoax (or=20 hoaxes)? All you have to have is a little common sense to know = when people=20 are blowing smoke up your butt!
    
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Ron says:=20

December=20 9, 2009 at 7:51 am

All the liberals posting here remind me of the idiots in the White = House=20 and Democratic Congress who don=92t have a legimate argument about = anything,=20 like the healthcare debacle, its just =93we are smarter and know more = than=20 anyone else in the world about everything, and you should just blindly = follow=20 us=94.

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Disgusted says:

December=20 9, 2009 at 7:52 am

Global Warming is true. Is it being caused by man? I don=92t think = so. Watch=20 the History channel sometime, they have specials on all the time about = how the=20 earth=92s temperatures have fluctuated warmer and colder over millions = of=20 years.
Do I believe we should work towards greener energies=85.yes. = I think=20 we are exhausting the earths resources and we need to utilize the free = energies that are available to us (wind, water, sun), but, we could = have and=20 should have done it years ago. There is just too much money in the oil = and=20 coal business for our government to really step back from it. They are = certainly putting on a good show and spending a ton of money, but if = they were=20 really serious about it they would have made the changes long ago.

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- LucifersHammer says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 8:28 am
  
  Disgusted=92s thought processes are logical. Green technologies = are needed=20 as we exhaust those carbon based energy supplies so thoughtfully = provided by=20 nature. And yes, big money and government have stood in the way for = too many=20 years. Think of what we could have had if Tesla=92s ideas had been = fully=20 brought to fruition. Alternate sources are needed for our future = survival.=20 But to shut down our current economies because a few believe that we = humans=20 are presently doing enough to seriously alter the climate, is as has = been=20 said, the height of human ignorance and arrogance.
  
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- Joe H. says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 8:58 am
  
  Disgusted,
  And if we get away from petroleum completely, where = do you=20 think they are going to get the lubricants to keep those wind mills = and such=20 running?
  
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  - Disgusted says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 10:01 am
    
    Joe H.: Now you are just nit-pickin the points! Use a little = common=20 sense. The amount used to =93lubricate=94 the wind turbines wil be = miniscule.=20 We will never get completely away from needing lubricants as most = engines=20 will need some sort to run on. You are being absolutely rediculous = with=20 this comment.
    
    Reply
    - DaveH says:
      
      December=20 9, 2009 at 11:11 am
      
      =93Use a little common sense=94? Like the common sense you = use when you=20 say that =93we need to utilize the free energies that are = available to us=20 (wind, water, sun)=94. If they were =93free=94, we would have no = problem,=20 would we? Consumers would readily purchase the alternate = energies if=20 they were free. They aren=92t free.
      I only point out your=20 inconsistencies because you chose to condescend Joe. Please = don=92t stoop=20 to personal attacks like the board Zombies.
      
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      - Disgusted = says:
        
        December=20 9, 2009 at 12:07 pm
        
        You are right and I apologize. =93FREE=94 is not the proper = term. How=20 is the term =93Cheaper=94, or =93Economically Sound=94 or = =93Sustainable=94=20 energy. Nothing in this world is free! I just assumed we were = all on=20 the same page that =93FREE=94 actually meant we didn=92t need = to rob the=20 earth of its precious resources to fulfill our needs.
      - DaveH says:
        
        December=20 9, 2009 at 1:01 pm
        
        Disgusted,
        You are a class act (sincerely). I appreciate = that.
        
        The thing is that whenever government gets involved in the = market=20 place, there are inevitable distortions: Subsidies, regulatory = obstacles, fines. It makes a balanced assessment of costs very = difficult. Take Wind Energy. It costs money and energy to = build the=20 generators. It also costs the environment =96 who wants to = live near a=20 wind farm? And then perhaps one of the greatest problems is = the fact=20 that wind is not consistent.
        With a free market most = consumers will=20 buy the cheapest energy. Those who want to be Green could = voluntarily=20 spend more and feel good. If somebody discovers an alternate = energy=20 that can be competitively priced, you can be sure consumers = would buy=20 it. And there would be a lot more capital to invest in those = endeavors=20 if Government wasn=92t growing and consuming so much of our = natural=20 resources.
        
        http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=3D8858
      - Disgusted = says:
        
        December=20 9, 2009 at 2:27 pm
        
        Dave. Thanks mucho. I hate to see these posts resort to = name=20 calling and such.
        We have a lot of wind farms in Wisconsin = and if=20 you ever have the opportunity to see Lake Winnebago there are = quit a=20 few now and plans for about 400 wind turbines on the east = shore, it=20 doesn=92t look bad. I don=92t know how loud they are if you = are close to=20 them, but from what I have heard the locals want more and = don=92t seem=20 to mind them.
      - jim says:
        
        December=20 9, 2009 at 5:08 pm
        
        How can the Dems tax sunshine and wind? Once we fiure that = out it=20 will be availiable.
      - Joe H. says:
        
        December=20 9, 2009 at 7:06 pm
        
        Disgusted,
        Those wind turbines that you tout so loudly = are=20 twenty years away at best!!! slim pickens( or is that T bone = Pickens)=20 type of system has have land confiscated ( yes I do mean = confiscated)=20 which means law suits,The turbines have to be built, the power = grid=20 built, and then when they are on line you will have extremely = high up=20 keep costs. Then you have the west coast that always says =94 = not in my=20 back yard=94! Twenty years is a very low estimate!!!
      - Disgusted = says:
        
        December=20 10, 2009 at 9:25 am
        
        Joe, They could be a reality now, if people like Al Gore = would stop=20 preaching and actually do something. Global Warming has been a = topic=20 of concern in the media since the 1980=92s and yet here we are = 20 years=20 later still talking about it. I personally think the earth is = just=20 being the earth and going through a normal cycle that it has = been=20 going through for billions of years, but if these activists = are so=20 passionate about it why has it taken 20 years to act and now = you are=20 saying at least 20 more. Even though I don=92t believe man is = causing=20 global warming I do believe we should move towards = sustainable/clean=20 energy sources and these wind turbines are a good solution, as = is=20 solar energy and water energy. We need to stop dragging our = feet and=20 do something about it.
Sarel Rossouw says:

December=20 9, 2009 at 7:52 am

Start at the beginning. Overpopulation is the problem. Global = warming is=20 the result. Ask the scientists to go back one step and then try to = explain the=20 term =93=91Global Warming=94 again.

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- DaveH says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 11:23 am
  
  Anybody who is aghast at the population size is free to reduce = the=20 population by one. Of course, they don=92t mean their life, just the = lives of=20 others.
  This doesn=92t mean I disagree with you on population = size. I also=20 would like to see fewer people, but I want that to be a personal = choice, not=20 the choice of the powers-that-be. One simple method to reduce = population=20 size without treading on peoples=92 freedom would be simply to = bestow=20 responsibility on the citizens for their own families. In other = words, there=20 would be no special breaks based on family size like there are now = in Income=20 Tax Code, etc.
  
  Reply
- jim says:=20
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 6:31 pm
  
  Hi Sarel, If our planet is so overpopulated why don=92t you help = out by=20 volenteering to go somewhere else?
  
  Reply
  - Joe H. says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 7:10 pm
    
    jim,
    Like all good liberals that want to help the = downtrodden with=20 others money, sarel only believes in population shrinkage if it = involves=20 somebody else=92s life!!!!
    
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MSG says:=20

December=20 9, 2009 at 8:13 am

Well I see Obama=94s zar has now declaired CO2 a hazard. Do any of = you know=20 why? Here is what I think, this fool has spent so much money and evan = china=20 has told him to stop. Well this will give him the chance to tax your = breathing=20 so you better learn to hold your breath or just give up breathing, = This is=20 where the largest co2 outlets come from in the world people and = animals their=20 breath. Sure maybe we need to clean up the air but not when the = economy is in=20 the shape it is in freeze goverment spending. forget health care cut = taxes and=20 pay the money back Obama has wasted first

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- LucifersHammer says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 8:47 am
  
  Declared to be hazardous so as to circumvent the potential demise = of the=20 =93cap & trade=94 legislation. Rather than =93legally(?????)=94 = tax us into the=20 ground, fine us or throw us in jail to get the same end!
  
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- DaveH says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 11:28 am
  
  Obama isn=92t going to be happy until he has alienated every = support group=20 he has. The Democrat Party had better wake up soon or they are going = to be=20 in real danger of needing the protection of the Endangered Species = Act.
  
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bigotae says:

December=20 9, 2009 at 8:14 am

Frank is in love with his own ignorance and as far as the data = being=20 refered to by the liberal lemmings,IT HAS BEEN PROVEN FRAUDULENT.

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koz says:=20

December=20 9, 2009 at 8:20 am

global warming. big deal.i drive a big pick-up, use wood and coal = for heat,=20 and burn my garbage dialy. i also ski over 100 days out of the year. = global=20 warming. i could=92nt care less.

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Pubulis says:

December=20 9, 2009 at 8:22 am

From roughly 800 to 1300 A.D., known as the Medievel Warming Period = (MWP),=20 wine grapes were grown in Great Britain and Greenland. During the MWP, = worldwide temperatures were higher than today=92s. Of course, this = occured long=20 before the industrial revolution, which upsets the = =93manmade-global-warming=94=20 world government control schemes. So, Copenhagen and the =93climate = scientists=94=20 must ignore and hide these things, along with measurements in the = present=20 decade, which has shown flat to downward temperatures.

For anyone interested in the facts, The MWP has been confirmed with = ice=20 cores, stalagmites, sediments, and isotopes, which agree with 6,144 = boreholes=20 around the world. Temperatures were about 0.5=F8C warmer
worldwide. = See: http://joannenova.com.au/2009/12/fraudulent-hockey-sticks-= and-hidden-data/#more-4660.=20 John Myers is correct.

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- Disgusted says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 8:40 am
  
  Pubulis. You are spot on. Science has proven that the earth has = gone=20 through Warming Periods and Cooling Periods (mini ice ages) over and = over=20 again throughout time. This is nothing different. In their desparate = attempt=20 to fix something that isn=92t happening what kind of consequences = are we going=20 to have? Man=92s interference is wrong!
  
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- Paula=20 Shene says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 9:39 am
  
  If people actually read all the data instead of only listening to = the=20 =91talking heads=92, the furor would die but indoctrination is a = powerful mind=20 clouding devise.
  
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rcast714 says:

December=20 9, 2009 at 8:28 am

Any 6th or 7th grade middle school student know about the = =93Scientific=20 Method=94 of proving scientific theories and natural laws. There are = seven=20 steps:

State the problem
Research
State a hypothesis
Perform an=20 experiment using a variable and a control
Analyze the date
State = the=20 conclusion based on facts and data
Write a scientific report

To the very best of my knowledge this has not been done by the so = called=20 =93scientists=94 who support the notion of human caused global = warming. Instead=20 they use syllogistic reasoning, conjecture, and consensus to make = their claims=20 none of which is supported by what even middle school students know is = not=20 true scientific evidence.

Now we have those same crooked scientists =93cooking the books=94, = so to speak,=20 simply to support a particular political agenda.

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Elizabeth says:=20

December=20 9, 2009 at 8:30 am

hummmm, if there is no Global Warming why is the arctic melting? = Also it=20 should occur to men that perhaps The Creator put things, called = natural=20 resources by man, into the earth for another reason than for man to = play with.=20 Perhaps helium is there to keep the earth in it=92s orbit, not inflate = balloons=20 for a parade, and so forth. I suggest that these matters be look at = more=20 closely, because once these so called resources are used, there will = be no=20 more. Solar energy is one that will always be there, unless of course = The=20 Creator gets upset with mans stupidity and turns off the sun. The = human race=20 has become spoilt and weak in the last hundred years. An old proverb = below=20 sums it up well, from real Americans.

Cherokee Prophecy
When all the trees have been cut down,when all = the=20 animals have been hunted, when all the waters are polluted, when all = the air=20 is unsafe to breathe, when the soil no longer gives grain,only then = will you=20 discover you cannot eat money.

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- LucifersHammer says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 8:59 am
  
  A wise and thoughful comment indeed. I do miss the old = environmental=20 commercials of the seventies. The tear on the check of our Native = American=20 Brother says much as to the carelessness with which we do use the = resources,=20 and discard their remains. Though I am a petroleum geologist, I feel = it is=20 incumbent that all things we do with nature, and each other, be done = with=20 respect and balanced dignity. Take as needed, when finished, return = as much=20 as possible to what was before.
  
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  - Claire says:
    
    December=20 10, 2009 at 8:28 pm
    
    Lucifershammer: Well spoken. Thank you.
    
    Reply
- Joe H. says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 9:02 am
  
  Elizabeth,
  yup and when we use all that helium the earth will = sink=20 like a rock!!! Have you ever come into contact with a thing called = gravity?=20 How about Orbit?? I don=92t mean the site where you get lower room = rates=20 here.
  
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  - Joe H. says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 9:03 am
    
    Also ma=92am why did the ice melt from the ice age? that was = before man=20 ever had any effect on anything!!!
    
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Forrest says:

December=20 9, 2009 at 8:33 am

Al Gore=92s income increased exponentially since he left the vice = president=20 position. He was reportedly worth 2 million now in the 100 millions. = That=20 shold make you at least question his motives. Global warming is a hoax = and the=20 movie inconvenient truth is being shown all over the world to convince = useful=20 idiots to sell their birth rights to the global warming power = conglomerate. As=20 a matter of fact the polar bear population is increasing in number and = Al baby=20 6 outright lies in his movie.

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Tom Cropp says:

December=20 9, 2009 at 8:35 am

No rational person would claim that man-made global warming is an=20 indisputable fact. The earth is perfectly capable of warming and = cooling=20 itself without mankind=92s feeble efforts to interfere, as it has done = countless=20 times over the past several billion years. If the so-called science = behind the=20 alarmist=92s claims is so good, why do they need to fudge or hide = certain data=20 that doesn=92t fit their conclusions, and then smear fellow scientists = that=20 express concerns that those conclusions may be wrong. Any scientist = worth=20 their salt always starts with the discaimer, =93I could be wrong, but = I believe=20 that this is what the data shows=94.

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James says:=20

December=20 9, 2009 at 8:41 am

There are about equal advocates of global warming and cooling now. = The=20 reason is because weather isn=92t constant, it varies because the sun = isn=92t=20 thermostatically controlled, it has flareups. (I complained about that = to God=20 and He said He would fix it.)
In the top chart, between 1750 and = 1800,=20 there=92s a peak that coincides with the 1787 Constitutional = Convention. That=20 summer was the hottest on record, until recently. It was so hot that = attendees=20 had great trouble, even breathing, everyone there complained about=20 it.
Around 12,000 BC, North America was covered with one to two = miles of=20 ice down to about where the Ohio River is now. Since the polar ice = caps are=20 now melting rapidly, I would suggest that we are near the end of = global=20 warming, a period now of about 14,000 years. Then, as the sun loses = its fuel,=20 we will again experience a global cooling trend. Suns do burn out. Not = to fear=20 though, we still have the thousand-year of christ, here, which is yet=20 future.

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Mac Boy says:

December=20 9, 2009 at 8:43 am

Warming =96 Schwarming !!

Watch your nightly Weather report =96 you=92ll see the High = Temps
were 25 to=20 70 YEARS AGO !!

=85 in the PAST! =96

Just more of Obama=92s =93The Sky Is Falling!=94 =96 B.S.!

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Kim says:=20

December=20 9, 2009 at 8:44 am

Wow, I can=92t believe how many gobal waring religion nuts are on = here. Let=20 us for a second believe that Global Warming oops, I mean Climate = Change is=20 true. Why would any American want to give the UN power over our = country? The=20 tax for =93Cap and Trade=94 is going to destroy America. Just your = heating and gas=20 bill will go up a couple thousand a year. Search for a Cap and Trade=20 calculator. Some of the calculators do just the heating and gas, = others will=20 add in groceries=85 Americans will see an increase in everything they = purchase.=20 How many Americans can afford paying thousand more out of their=20 paychecks?
Africa leaders said that Cap and Trade is their bread = basket. If=20 you want to see Amercans freeze, starve, become homeless then I guess = you are=20 sicker than I thought. All for what? The evidence is out there to = debunk=20 =93Global Warming=94. Read! Don=92t just listen to the television! = Research both=20 sides.
Stop Washington from selling our country out to the UN! If = you still=20 want to believe in global warming, great! But tell Washington we can = fix it on=20 our own! This crap is unconstitutional and will be Americas end to=20 freedom.

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- James says:
  
  December=20 11, 2009 at 8:22 am
  
  Kim, Since the Ice Age peaked around 12,000 BC, the ice has been=20 gradually melting off, we=92re just seeing the end of it. If that = isn=92t global=20 warming, what is? There=92s an island off the southeast coast of = India that=20 was once a penisula. Several years back, deepsea divers discovered = the=20 remains of a temple out on the end of it, that was 250-300 feet = under water.=20 That is clear evidence of global warming. Also, off the southeast = coast of=20 South America, there are still the remains of stone highways = extending out=20 on the Atlantic=92s floor.
  Global warming is nearing its end. = Galveston,=20 Texas is 8 feet above sea level, and has been from its beginning. = The ocean=20 levels are not coming up, in spite of Al Gore=92s = fear-mongering.
  
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Former_Democrat says:

December=20 9, 2009 at 8:45 am

To ASGreen and all of you other mental midgets. Man Made Global = Warming is=20 nothing more than a fraud and you are too ignorant to understand the = facts.=20 How do you explain that the ground core that they pulled from = Greenland, from=20 under the snow and ice, had human tools and dinnerware. If these = fraudulent=20 scientists are to be believed, then if there was no ice and snow in = Greenland,=20 then it would be under water according to their data, but it wasn=92t. = How do=20 explain all the cooling in the last 10 years and the fact that solar = activity=20 has been at an all time low? Also, beside the thrown away data, what = did they=20 use to calibrate the instruments used to make these measurements. = Calibrated=20 measurement devices have only been around since mid last century, so = you used=20 non-calibrated equipment to measure with, with unkown tolerances, not = to=20 mention that in the last 40 years a lot of the measuring devices they = put in=20 places non-conducive to getting an accurate reading and these devices = were not=20 maintained properly. Try doing some research and learning before = showing your=20 ignorance. Over 39,000 scientists signed off on a report last year out = of=20 Oregon that showed there was NO SUCH THING AS MAN MADE GLOBAL WARMING. = Over=20 12,000 had doctorates. So leave science to those of us who are truly=20 scientists and not bought off by idiot politicians and even more so, = ignorant=20 people like you.

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Carol Broussard says:

December=20 9, 2009 at 8:50 am

One of the hardest things for human beings to do it admit they have = been=20 fooled and fell for it. Facts don=92t matter to fools. So if anyone is = waiting=20 for these global warming alarmists to admit that there is credible=20 contradictory information that might disprove global warming, it just = ain=92t=20 gonna happen. They would have to admit they were played like a bunch = of=20 fiddles.

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Teresa says:=20

December=20 9, 2009 at 8:55 am

I too love Glenn Beck, are you trying to tell us that that Obama is = not a=20 communist? He has no love for America and neither do any of his so = called=20 Czars. His Czars have either been in Jail or not paid taxes along with = some of=20 his administration. They all have said they are Marxist, and they all = love=20 Saul Alinsky. They are using the Cloward -Piven Strategy to tear down = America=20 and to rebuild it in to a Communist nation. This global warming is = crap. I do=20 think having electric cars and solar pannels is a great idea. I do = think we=20 should be drilling off shore. There is other countries drilling right = off Key=20 West in our area, soooooo what are we waiting for? I think most of = America is=20 sick and tired of being a sap for other countries and then this guy in = the=20 White House goes around the world appoligizing. For what? Helping = everytime a=20 country has a disaster? we are always there to HELP!!!!IF YOU believe = in=20 global warming we do not have to cap and tax tax tax=85. get yourself = a electric=20 car, buy your solar pannels and don=92t cut down all the trees, and be = a damn=20 vegetarian like I have been all my life.Is Al Gore? No and don=92t say = I am=20 prejudice, I have a black father and a hispanic mom. I have the best = of=20 everything, and I love America. You are all wrong. Now that I=92m = getting older=20 and having my first child I see how the government just wastes our = hard earned=20 money, Obama is a one termer thank God. I have been and independent = voter, I=20 do not believe in Parties, thank you very much. Have you seen the = weather=20 today? snow, minus degree weather today, check out the weather. You = just can=20 not admit your voted for the wrong person.

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- Joe H. says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 9:07 am
  
  Teresa,
  Liked the heck out of your post, just one thing. = Don=92t depend=20 on O-man being a one termer. If the vote gets divided too much, it = will=20 return him to the White House and we are screwed up!!!
  
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  - DaveH says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 11:50 am
    
    Please quit worrying about dividing the vote. We are at a point = now=20 where people have finally been shocked into awareness. We need to = use that=20 new-found awareness to elect representatives who promise to cut = back the=20 size of government. If we don=92t we will just get more Government = growth=20 until it is absolutely too late to reverse. It is a known fact = that people=20 receiving largesse from the government vote for bigger government. = Why=20 wouldn=92t they? We have almost reached that critical size of = trough-feeders=20 where it will be too late.
    If the Republicans can=92t field = those=20 push-back candidates then we can=92t afford to vote for = them.
    Please read=20 the Libertarian Party Platform:
    http://libertarianparty.org/platform
    
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Robert Edwards says:

December=20 9, 2009 at 9:16 am

Has anyone ever thought that if the planet is getting warmer then = there is=20 less need for energy since winter cold periods are reduced. I am a = very strong=20 conservative person 68 years of age. I can recall my father telling = stories of=20 driving across a frozen river in Indiana back during the 1930s. Back = then it=20 froze over every year. Then it stopped being so cold. Now our world is = planning on shipping lanes through the Artic Ocean which may mean the = Panama=20 Canal will not even be needed. Whether it is natural or whether it is = man made=20 makes little difference if we simply stand around stupidly and argue = about it.=20 No one can claim that it is getting colder=96at least not yet.

So what is the big fear if our world continues to get warmer? It = all comes=20 down to the rise in sea level. We have two alternatives either force = the=20 increase in colder weather to cause a freeze of the worlds remaining = glaciers=20 or find ways to accomodate the increase in sea level. Some propose = eliminating=20 as much harmful green house gases as possible to cause a cool down. = Then won=92t=20 that simply drive up the demand for more heating energy? When would we = know=20 how cold to set the temperature to make sure we don=92t send our = planet back=20 into the ice age? Some conclude that exploding volcanoes have been = less in=20 recent years and that has allowed greater sun light. How many atomic = bombs=20 dropped into inactive volcanic craters would it take to reverse global = warming? Oops, that might also make it too cold for just one could = even set=20 off a domino effect.

It seems that controlling the ocean depth is maybe the saftest = approach to=20 global warming. Fill up those underground mines that are not used. Put = water=20 into the voids where crude has been pumped out. Build some huge = mountain=20 lakes. Are these things possible? I don=92t know, but I do know we = need to look=20 at alternatives instead of beating our brains out on the rock of=20 stupidity.

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RHSchumann says:

December=20 9, 2009 at 9:19 am

Who is paying you to publish these lies? The last decade was the = warmest=20 since records were kept. All indications are that the climate is = getting=20 hotter. Ice shields are disappearing at an alarming rate. Mount = Kilimanjaro=20 will likely lose the last snow field within decades. The same thing is = happening in the Himalayas, the Andes and the Alps. Many of these = glaciers and=20 snow fields provide year round water to the people living at the foot = of the=20 mountains. Desertification in Africa and elsewhere is already driving = millions=20 from their ancestral homes and is almost certainly a driving force = behind=20 ethnic strife there. Coastal areas in the Pacific are already being = flooded on=20 a regular basis and much more frequently and severely than in the = past. Fact=20 is that man-released CO2 that had been safely tucked away for millions = of=20 years and other man-made gases are trapping sunlight. That is a = scientific=20 fact and no denial will wish it away. Until now the oceans have = sequestered=20 much of the released CO2. As a result, ocean water is getting more = acid. At=20 some point the oceans will be saturated. When that happens, the = climate may=20 get out of control as has happened several times in the history of the = earth.=20 Back then, the catastrophes wiped out most life but life always = recovered=20 within a few million years. Life will recover after the next = catastrophe but=20 we will no longer be around.
Is that certain to happen? Perhaps not = but=20 there is a very good chance that it will. Would it not be prudent to = change=20 our ways and learn to do with less fossil fuels? Why play Russian = roulette?=20 But that would require thinking past the end of our own life times and = that=20 apparently is too difficult for most people.
Concerning the = purloined=20 E-Mails from the British think tank, all I can say is that those who = use them=20 as evidence that warnings of global warming and the consequences = therefrom are=20 a hoax are either smoking dope or are outright lying. Those people = don=92t=20 understand the scientific mind. True scientists are forever = questioning their=20 own results and the results of other scientists. That=92s the = scientific method.=20 Before anything is published, findings are subjected to close = scrutiny. Many=20 reports don=92t pass muster and land in a file or in some = pseudo-scientific=20 publication. That=92s what they were discussing in England.
So get = with it=20 already and stop reinforcing the opinions of those who just want to = carry on=20 in their own irresponsible way.

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- sp russell says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 10:51 am
  
  Hogwash. The leading scientist at MIT who also is the nations = foremost=20 expert on global warming studied and documented his findings that 20 = years=20 reveals that when several others estimated that the CO2 would = increase=20 global warming due to manmade causes his documented evidence = revealed the=20 exact opposite. Conclusion the evidence proves the hypothesis of the = scientists who tell us that we are the culprits who are causing our = planet=20 to lose it=92s ozone is a fallacy and our so called carbon footprint = has=20 little to do with the ozone period. We should be investing our = dollars and=20 time into more constructive projects and creating real jobs not = these short=20 term green jobs. We should be investing more money into the energies = that we=20 have here in America including oil of both coasts, natural gas, the = very=20 safe nuclear power plants and other sources of energy would be a = much better=20 use of our time, money, and resources. We could create thousands of = jobs=20 through our harvesting the oil safely off our coast and = Alaska.
  And we=20 could use the money to better serve God and further the spreading of = the=20 Gospel the whole reason we are here on this planet.
  
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- DaveH says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 12:01 pm
  
  Quit publishing these lies? So it=92s alright if the lies come = from your=20 side only? I and/or my children have lived near the Pacific Coast = for 30=20 years now, and I can tell you for a fact there has been no decrease = in the=20 shoreline other than that caused by the tides.
  Have you read any=20 anti-Global-Warming books? I doubt it. There are many to choose = from. Here=92s=20 one:
  http://www.amazon.com/Politically-Incorrect-Global-Warming= -ebook/dp/B000RH0C40/ref=3Dpd_rhf_p_t_1
  
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- Joe H. says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 7:19 pm
  
  RH,
  If what you say is true, why did they destroy the = information=20 before anyone could confer on their results?? either they are afraid = that=20 people would find fault with their results or they are so big headed = as to=20 think they are the only ones brilliant enough to do the work!!! Pig = headed=20 is more likely!!!
  
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- Dan-o says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 10:49 pm
  
  Dang! you need to live on the moon, al bet your afraid to leave = your=20 house.
  
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Jack R. says:

December=20 9, 2009 at 9:27 am

I just read every comment above. Very insightful stuff. Some people = are a=20 little looney when it comes to this issue. The gathering in Copenhagen = has=20 failed to invite the one person with the smallest carbon footprint: = GOD=20 Himself. This Global Warming has become our Tower of Babal. But since = the=20 world divorces itself in believing this is His creation, we deserve to = squander our money, intellectual capital and human energy wrestling = with a=20 issue that God is in control of. I cling to my Bible and my assortment = of=20 guns=85to protect my family from the impending onslaught of = self-righteous=20 idiots. But we can all expect our Lord Obama to lead us out of the=20 wilderness=85straight into a swamp of our own making.

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- Raggs says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 9:59 am
  
  Your post hit it on the head!!!!
  
  The only man-made diaster is mans own greed and selfishness and = stray=20 from the true King of this land=85
  
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- Don says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 8:15 pm
  
  How do you know they didn=92t bring God? I guess you don=92t = believe in=20 silent prayer. My silent prayers have been answered.
  
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James says:=20

December=20 9, 2009 at 9:38 am

Re: MJ Montana

SO? You provided NO proof that mankind causes this. May just be the = cycles=20 the Sun has been going through since the begining of time. That is THE = problem=20 that the =93Climate Warming Because of Mankind=94 crowd has =96 NO = PROOF! Just a=20 grand gamble =96 bet red or black and put all your money on it. = Crazey!

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- James says:
  
  December=20 11, 2009 at 8:27 am
  
  James, there seems to be two of us. Read my comment above to = Kim.
  
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Richard says:

December=20 9, 2009 at 10:05 am

I believe that the global warming is a hoax. I also believe the = earth is=20 flat. It says so in the bible. It must be so, despite the Copenhagen = crowd of=20 scientists who would have us believe the earth is round.

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- sp russell says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 10:15 am
  
  The Bible in the Hebrew refers to the eartn as a sphere. And a = sphere is=20 round not flat.
  
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- DaveH says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 12:06 pm
  
  The flat-earth beliefs were based on opinion, not science =96 = Just like the=20 Anthropogenic Global Warming beliefs. Real scientists are not afraid = of=20 scrutiny. Only those that have something to hide are afraid of = scrutiny.
  
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Dennis says:=20

December=20 9, 2009 at 10:06 am

If it was only about global warming!!!!
read these SICK quotes = from=20 alarmist doom and gloom delegates to
Hoaxen-Hagen

=93Isn=92t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized = civilizations=20 collapse? Isn=92t it our responsibility to bring that about?=94 =96 = Maurice Strong,=20 founder of the UN Environment Programme

=93No matter if the science of global warming is all phony=85 = climate change=20 provides the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality = in the=20 world.=94 =96 Christine Stewart, former Canadian Minister of the = Environment

The delegation from Bolivia will be pushing for a Universal = Declaration of=20 Mother Earth Rights, which the country=92s President Evo Morales says = =93supersede=20 the rights of human beings.=94

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- DaveH says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 12:09 pm
  
  Good post Dennis. People need to wake up to the kind of nut-jobs = that are=20 promoting the Man-Made-Global-Warming agenda.
  
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BRiley says:=20

December=20 9, 2009 at 10:06 am

Emperical evidence, the absolute observed and recorded facts, are = the only=20 accurate record. Selected datapoints to feed someone=92s computer = program,=20 producing results that are pre-determined, is the fear of many = regarding the=20 outcome of the whistleblower at East Anglia=92s CRU.

Let=92s see=85.Amundsen went through the Northwest Passage about = 1907. The=20 small RCMP boat St. Roch went through in 1943. Can=92t easily do that = today.=20 Satellite photos only began in 1979. Is it possible these are roughly = 40 year=20 climatic cycles, part of the larger cycles witnessed by the proven = Mediaeval=20 Warming Period and the subsequent Little Ice Age, which ended = ~1830?

Oceans rising? Always have, always will. Deal with it. The first = Roman port=20 in England over 2,000 years ago, in Kent, is now 1/2 mile inland. = Brouage, a=20 walled commercial seaport in France on the Bay of Biscay that = flourished in=20 the 1500=92s, is now 2 miles inland. Tarsus in Turkey the same.

The AGW =92scientists=92 should apply their inquisitive nature = (still there?)=20 to looking at history =96 which alway seems ro have a way of repeating = itself.=20 Everybody forget the =91dustbowl=92 years of the 1930=92s, which = coincides with the=20 true peak of warming in this current cycle?

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- Lindy says:
  
  December=20 10, 2009 at 6:55 pm
  
  Hey BRiley=85 you=92re close on the Satellite imagery date. I = remember=20 working with my dad in the mid 70s on a project with the Landsat = program. So=20 I checked and wikipedia says the Landsat project began in 1972. Just = thought=20 you=92d like to know (and for your arguments sake, it doesn=92t = really matter if=20 it was =9172 or =9178.) Cheers!
  
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DAVE SODEN says:

December=20 9, 2009 at 10:27 am

I THINK THAT EVERYONE ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS ISSUE ,HAVE TO STOP AND = SMELL=20 THE COFFEE!FOR ALL THE BILLIONS OF YEARS BEFORE MAN EVER ARRIVED
ON = THE=20 SCENE,MANY NATURAL CLIMATE CHANGES HAVE OCCURED.DURING THIS TIME = BEFORE MAN IN=20 HIS INFINITE WISDOM CAME UPON THE SCENE MANY DRAMATIC CHANGES TOOK = PLACE.NOW=20 WHO DO YOU SUPPOSE CAUSED THESE CHANGES AND WHO DO YOU SUPPOSE MADE = THE EARTH=20 THE PLACE WE KNOW TODAY?IF I NEED TO TELL YOU THEN YOU ALL NEED TO = THINK ABOUT=20 THIS AWHILE AND PERHAPS YOU WILL UNDERSTAND WHY THE ENVIROMENTALISTS = WHO SEEM=20 TO HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS TO THIS PROBLEM DO NOT ACTUALLY BELIEVE ALL = THIS=20 HYPE.IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO A MASSIVE POWER GRAB AND GREED!!!!

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Dick Welty says:

December=20 9, 2009 at 10:28 am

God created the Universe and all that is within it. The world is a = good=20 example of his handywork. Man has accidentally and at times foolishly = caused=20 pollution.
The Valdez Oil spill is a good example. Scientists said = that it=20 would be 50 years before the area would return to normal. In 3 years = they had=20 a hard time finding any evidence of the spill. God=92s Natural balance = had=20 healed the disaster.
My oldest son and I have had a discussion = about how=20 long it would take the entire U.S. population to putting all of our = resources,=20 excluding Nucliar power, into to filling up the Grand Canyon. We = figure it=20 would take about 100 years.
If mankind decided to raise the = temperature of=20 the earth 10 degrees how long would it take. Some would say we are = already=20 doing that even though the true full data doesn=92t support that view. = In fact=20 if we were to try to accomplish that we would find that Nature would = resist=20 our efforts.
In truth nature has more to do with global weather = patterns=20 than anything man can do whether on purpose or accidentally. In the = past=20 global temperatures have been greatly and rapidly changed by natural = disasters=20 such as meteorites and volcanic eruptions.
Note that Greenland was = named=20 Greenland not to fool Vikings into settling there but because it was = green in=20 the 12th century. Vikings lived there for several hundred years untill = the=20 little ice age drove them out. Note also that when in the middle ages = when the=20 tempretures dropped many degrees mankind survived without the = technology we=20 have today. The fact is that we have been comming out of the Little = Ice Age=20 for 160 years.
If the earths temperature were to somehow raise a = few=20 degrees the 150 trillion dollars the global warming fiasco would cost = the=20 world economy would be better spent helping third world countries = catch up=20 technologically. That way they could also adapt to the changes in = climate. If=20 ancient man could adapt to sudden drastic climate changes so can = modern man=20 adapt to a mild climate change that takes 100 years.
The reason = that the=20 liberals are demanding that we do something now is because they know = that long=20 term data will show that it isn=92t mankind that is changing nature. = Nature and=20 Man will survive reguardless.
Liberals are Humanists who believe = That=20 Humans hold all of the power. They do not believe in God nor in his=20 word.
God says that man has dominion over the animals. Liberals put = animals=20 above man with the endangered species act. Running farmers out of = business by=20 cutting off water to save a smelt and using the Endangered Species Act = to take=20 away our personal and property rights. Liberals fail to realize that = while=20 99.999999% of all species are allready extinct nature always fills the = gap and=20 continues just as God designed it to.
The bottom line is that = Liberals use=20 so called climate change crisis, endangered species crisis, the = healthcare=20 crisis the energy crisis and all of their other crisis to pass laws = that=20 enable them to controll every aspect of our lives, the economy and our = liberty.
I have touched on enough of my thoughts for now. Remember = whether=20 we believe in God or not HE IS IN CONTROL.
May God Bless = America

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- RHSchumann says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 10:50 am
  
  Yeah, and when did God create the earth and all living things on = it? Was=20 it at 10 o=92clock the 23rd of October 5327 BC? But was it AM or = PM?
  
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  - sp russell says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 11:32 am
    
    Dick Welty has it right RH your answer was lame and = archaic.
    
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  - coal miner says:
    
    December=20 11, 2009 at 1:30 pm
    
    RH,
    
    It was nine-o clock am.That was quotation from Dr. Charles = Lightfoot. I=20 think it was in the 1600s.He was a real nut case.Check it out.
    
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Thomas says:=20

December=20 9, 2009 at 11:04 am

As a retired earth scientist, I am appalled at the responses of = persons who=20 have no experience in the field but have become firm advocates of a = fictional=20 position on =93climate change=94.
Climate change is part of the = geologic=20 history and has been well documented in many professional geologic = journals.=20 Climate change is part of the history of the earth, has been repeated = many=20 times and is well documented in in publications which are available to = persons=20 not schooled in earth history. In fact, the cause of climate change is = presented in journals dating to 19th century as they documented earths = obital=20 changes, angle of polar rotation relative to the sun.
I suggest = interested=20 persons read the works of Milutin Milankovitch to get an understanding = of=20 climate changes throughout geologic history. Climate change is NOT = new.

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- libertytrain says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 11:24 am
  
  Thank you for an excellent comment -
  
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- eyeswideopen says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 4:55 pm
  
  Thomas, enjoyed your post. I do have a few questions for you. Do = you=20 think that all the pollutants that we put into the atomsphere cause = any harm=20 to the climate? When massive amounts of trees are removed from the=20 landscape, what percentage of oxygen exchange is stopped? Is it = directly=20 proportionate to the amount removed or is it greater due to the = cummalative=20 effect? If our water ways are being polluted and the oceans are = warming,=20 thus killing the coral reefs, isn=92t that contributing to the = warming, which=20 will also effect the food sources? Isn=92t the whole eco system tied = together,=20 so when one fails it produces a domino effect? Are you saying that = the=20 pollutants do not contribute to eco-system failure or climate = change?
  
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  - Don says:=20
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 8:24 pm
    
    Good questions.
    
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  - Claire says:
    
    December=20 10, 2009 at 5:48 pm
    
    Eyes=97-Excellent!!!
    
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  - DaveH says:
    
    December=20 10, 2009 at 6:51 pm
    
    It has recently been discovered that trees emit a large amount = of=20 methane, a much more potent greenhouse gas than carbon = dioxide.
    So=20 maybe we need to cut down more trees (just kidding).
    http://www.carbon-info.org/carbonnews_028.htm
    
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- jim says:=20
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 9:16 pm
  
  Hi thomas, In northern Illimios we have formations called kames = and=20 moranes. the are formed by glaciers forming and receeding. We have = also=20 found focilized remains of tropical plants in the same area. this = area has=20 been covered by tropical forests at one time and glaciers in = another. All=20 before the S.U.V. A large volcanic eruption will cause a big release = of=20 gasses to all with out our help. Maybe after an iceage we=92re just = returning=20 to where we should be.
  
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  - Curtis S says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 10:09 pm
    
    Jim, you are =93kind of=94 correct. The moraines in Illinois = were caused by=20 glaciers in the last ice age. The fossilized tropical remains are = from a=20 time when the North American continent was situated in a more = tropical=20 latitude. You=92re talking about a fairly recent event (the Ice = Age about=20 10,000 years ago) and continental drift (Pangea) which is 100s of = millions=20 ago.
    
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    - Dan-o says:
      
      December=20 9, 2009 at 11:10 pm
      
      Boy Curtis is sure up on his theories
      
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    - jim says:
      
      December=20 10, 2009 at 11:27 am
      
      Hi Curtis, Thankyou for the clarification. It=92s amazing how = dynamic=20 the earth is. Always changing.
      
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ONTIME says:=20

December=20 9, 2009 at 11:09 am

Those of us with a decent high school education and a ounce of = integrity=20 have been more than convinced that the liars of the world who have = gained the=20 pulpit are trying to do nothing more than scam on anyone who will = listen to=20 the lies coming from that snake oil mouth.

This is the lessons that P.T. Barnum=92s =93There is a sucker born = every=20 minute=94 and the lessons learned of our country=92s heritage, why = they are so=20 important, if you cannot pay attention to either of those things then = you are=20 a patsy for what is coming and Never have so few been so intent on = stealing=20 from so much from so many=85.Axiom

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Kim says:=20

December=20 9, 2009 at 11:10 am

http://www.theabsurdreport.com/2009/climategate-cooking-th= e-books-with-=91global-warming=92/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DMp18LlWWSBw

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Jeff says:=20

December=20 9, 2009 at 11:14 am

The data from various JPL & NASA space probes have confirmed = that=20 global warming has been happening on every single planet in our solar = system=20 for some time now. Sunspot activity is the main predictor of weather = on the=20 planets in our solar system. Galileo was imprisoned by the Pope for = divulging=20 that the sun creates the weather on earth. The effect of humans on the = weather=20 is negligible. Regardless, the earth will seek homeostasis. The earth = will=20 cool itself, hence ice ages & minimums of the past & future. = There is=20 revolutionary technology available now, but the current power = structure=20 refuses to allow this because it threatens their control model. Peace, = Jeff

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jim says:=20

December=20 9, 2009 at 11:55 am

If I had to sit down and say now let=92s see, how can I get control = of all=20 the governments and all the wealth on earth, I wouldn=92t have to = think too long=20 about it. I=92d say, of course, I just have to own, restrict and meter = all=20 energy resources on earth, while meanwhile swatting any attempt to = develop new=20 sources of energy. That way I could make everyone beholden to me, = through the=20 simple expedient of shutting off the energy where necessary to force=20 compliance, and I then I could tax everyone on earth to near = destitution, once=20 they were all beholden to me. Those of us who were not born yesterday = think we=20 see this being attempted now in Copenhagen.

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- DaveH says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 12:17 pm
  
  Good comment Jim.
  
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Arkham Grundy says:

December=20 9, 2009 at 12:01 pm

Denying global warming is like denying the holocaust. All you have = to do is=20 look at the satellite photos of melting glaciers and ice packs all = over the=20 world=85 HELLO!

This truth is indeed =93inconvenient=94 for corporate interests and = right wind=20 head-in-the-sand types as it interferes with profit goals. Our = planet=92s=20 climate varies naturally but it is undenialble that human activity = plays a=20 large part in rushing the process.

Sorry, people, but GLOBAL WARMING IS NOT A HOAX.

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- Fred says:=20
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 12:16 pm
  
  You mean like the expanding glaciers in the Himalayas? Or = Antarctica? Or=20 Greenland? and many other places around the globe?
  
  Seems like you=92re cherry picking to conclude they are all = disappearing.=20 Glaciers come and go as does C02 and warmth and cold spells. A = couple=20 hundred years ago, there was a little ice age when many glaciers = expanded=20 hearily. It=92s natural for many to now recede.
  
  FYI, research on the glaciers on Kilimanjaro has determined the = ice to be=20 vanishing because of natural processes stretching back to the l0,000 = years=20 ago, not recent global warming. You apparently conveniently missed = this=20 research, didn=92t you? Didn=92t fit your mold=85
  
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  - LucifersHammer = says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 12:54 pm
    
    Well put, Fred. The world will balance itself. While icefields = in one=20 area shrink, those elsewhere will grow. East Antartica, as I = recall, is=20 experiencing increasingly colder temps, while west Antartica seems = to be=20 warming a bit. Natures balance!?! Our climate is complex and no = one=20 location, though many attempt to =93prove=94 AGW based on one = location, can be=20 used to state how the climate was, or will be, even a 100 miles = away. Such=20 is the vast variation global climate encompasses. So complex that = models=20 on our best super computers are still a guess at best. I bet the = Creator=20 is getting a grand chuckle over this lunacy!
    
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- DaveH says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 12:31 pm
  
  =93This truth is indeed =93inconvenient=94 for corporate = interests and right=20 wind head-in-the-sand types as it interferes with profit = goals=94.
  
  Oh you mean like the profits of GE or Exelon or any of the = alternative=20 energy companies that will benefit if the Cap and Trade bill = passes?
  
  http://www.energyandcapital.com/articles/cap-trade-carbon/= 821
  
  Reply
  - DaveH says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 12:33 pm
    
    As Government Grows, Corruption Flows.
    
    Reply
    - eyeswideopen = says:
      
      December=20 9, 2009 at 4:59 pm
      
      As corporate subsidies flow so goes the vote. Corporations = receiving=20 subsidies are using those same monies to purchase the = legislators votes=20 for the benefit of the corporation. We are paying with our tax = dollars=20 to have the corporations interests implimented instead of the = interests=20 of the working class.
      
      Reply
      - Dan-o says:
        
        December=20 9, 2009 at 11:20 pm
        
        Without most of the corporation the middle glass would be = without a=20 job
      - DaveH says:
        
        December=20 9, 2009 at 11:37 pm
        
        No doubt Eyes. Then why do you support Big Government which = by=20 nature enables that kind of chicanery? With free markets the=20 Corporations have to please the consumer or go out of = business. With=20 regulated markets the consumer comes second (if at all).
      - eyeswideopen = says:
        
        December=20 10, 2009 at 6:29 pm
        
        DaveH, I don=92t support big government, you accuse me of = that, but=20 low and behold you are wrong. Bush grew this government = that=92s why I=20 am so against those that are still in office from his reign. I = want to=20 stop the flow of Federal monies to the corporations, which = would=20 reduce the government agencies that have to monitor that flow. = Never=20 once have you stated that you think that government subsidies = to=20 corporations should be halted. 92 Billion in 2006 went to Big=20 Corporations in subsidies. You don=92t see anything wrong with = that? I=20 am tired of corporations running this country.Private business = should=20 not be governing, as they can=92t do that without predjuice = towards=20 themselves. Follow the money is a mantra which shows that = corporate=20 America purchases the legislators vote and dictates an uneven = playing=20 field for the working class. I voted twice for Ron Paul, = however he no=20 longer embodies his previous platforms, so I am waiting for = someone=20 who doesn=92t dictate a religious platform, doesn=92t believe = in earmarks,=20 thinks all business=92 and individuals should pay fair share = of taxes,=20 doesn=92t think that some should be allowed to hide money in = off shore=20 accounts, making the rest of us pick up their share of = infrastructure=20 costs, believes in campaign reform, follows the Constitution, = doesn=92t=20 try to weight the Supreme Court with only one party, truly = believes in=20 personal freedoms for all, regardless of age, color, race or = sex.
      - DaveH says:
        
        December=20 10, 2009 at 7:04 pm
        
        Free Markets would solve those problems. Free economies are = robust=20 economies. Yes, some people get rich. I have no problem with = that as=20 long as we have volutary contracts. They have to do something = with all=20 their money, and I would be happy to earn some from them. = Government=20 should exist only to protect us from the force of others, and = to=20 litigate fraudulant activities. As big as it is now, they not = only=20 don=92t protect us from fraud, but the fraud seems more = rampant than=20 ever before in my life.
        I owned stock in one company, for = example,=20 whose CFO admitted to cooking the books. He was fired with = pay. I=20 doubt seriously that the CEO wasn=92t aware of the book = cooking. Why=20 would the CFO do that unless pressured by upper = management?
        The=20 company reorganized, the shareholders were screwed, and the = CEO wound=20 up as the CEO of the newly organized company.
      - eyeswideopen = says:
        
        December=20 10, 2009 at 7:33 pm
        
        Daveh, still no comment on the big corporations = subsidies?
- ScottB says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 1:33 pm
  
  In a petition, more than 30,000 American scientists are urging = the U.S.=20 government to reject the Kyoto treaty. Thus, there is hardly the = unanimity=20 among scientists about global warming or mankind=92s role in = producing it.
  
  Reply
- BRiley says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 2:23 pm
  
  Well, Arkham et al, you base your retreating ice on satellite = photos that=20 have only been around for 30 years (see my post above). BTW, these = same=20 satellites show Arctic ocean ice increasing in area for the past 2=20 years.
  
  Read up on information that is easily available. Another example = of many,=20 the Discovery Channel recently showed a high-altitude WWI = battlefield in=20 northern italy =96 it has been =91re-discovered=92 beacuse it has = been hidden=20 under snow and ice (yet it was completely open and vegetative 90 = years ago.=20 Cycles maybe?
  
  Ten climate/weather people have been following the retreating = snow-cap on=20 Canada=92s northern Baffin Island for many years. At the higher = altitude now=20 exposed, they find the remains of vegetation cover that they = lab-dated to=20 ~1500AD. Give your collective heads a shake.
  
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BrianO says:=20

December=20 9, 2009 at 1:01 pm

Wether you believe in man made global warming or not. Basedon the = very=20 research these sceintist
Are using. Shows that if we were to stop = all cars=20 trucks planes trains factories for the next 100 years. It might lower = the=20 global temperature 1 degree. Seems some mathematicians ran the = numbers. Don=92t=20 take my word for it. Look it up. This comes directly from the = assistant to the=20 former Prime Minister of England. Who happens to be a lord himself. = Google=20 it.

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charles says:

December=20 9, 2009 at 1:05 pm

it is the SUN.However,there is no money in that and it is too = simple for=20 the experts that come up with the usual crap.Remember the China = Syndrome of=20 Hollywood fame?

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BrianO says:=20

December=20 9, 2009 at 1:08 pm

Google Lord Monckton.

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ScottB says:=20

December=20 9, 2009 at 1:31 pm

In a petition, more than 30,000 American scientists are urging the = U.S.=20 government to reject the Kyoto treaty. Thus, there is hardly the = unanimity=20 among scientists about global warming or mankind=92s role in producing = it. But=20 the GENIUSES, Al Gore and Congressman Ed Markey both have said there = is=20 consensus, and no need for further discussion regarding the Science. = Meaning=20 shut up already, because they both know better. Typical liberal = elitism. Gore=20 and Markey are the new poster boys for Environmental Fascism.

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Bhealy says:=20

December=20 9, 2009 at 1:39 pm

Man is the problem with the so called globle warming, or shall I = say globle=20 weather manipulation, if government pushes an agenda they have to keep = the lie=20 going,have you looked up lately ,check all the chem trails in the = ski,its=20 going on all around the world spraying of chemicals in the = atmospher,its=20 called weather wars.

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uponroof says:

December=20 9, 2009 at 2:59 pm

You can=92t make this stuff up!

=93COPENHAGEN HAS RUN OUT OF LIMOUSINES=94

while 140 PRIVATE JETS compete for taxi space.

Talk about a carbon footprint!

Bravo to Dave who earlier said:

Liberals amaze me. They will rail that we need Big Government to = protect us=20 from those big bad corporateers, while being totally oblivious to the = fact=20 that there are no magic barriers barring evil from migrating into = government.=20 History is replete with governments gone awry. And unlike corporations = which=20 at worst can only lie to us to sell their products, Big Government can = force=20 us to buy their products (or the products of their favored = corporations). The=20 =93selfish, misguided, and greedy=94 ones are you Liberals who want to = force your=20 way via government on the rest of us.

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- Joe H. says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 7:32 pm
  
  Uponroof
  I wonder how many of those poor uninsured that O-man = pretends=20 to be so concerned with could have been insured with the money from = his last=20 four unneeded trips he and the missus with Oprah the tubbo = took!!!
  
  Reply
- jim says:=20
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 8:08 pm
  
  Hi Uponroof, Are you saying the participants of this meeting = didn=92t ride=20 there bikes to the port to get on the sailboat to land in Copenhagen = to go=20 by horseback to the meeting? Oh wait the horses may produce some=20 methane.
  
  Reply
uponroof says:

December=20 9, 2009 at 3:08 pm

=93Copenhagen climate summit: 1,200 limos, 140 private planes and = caviar=20 wedges=94

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/copenhagen-climate-change= -confe/6736517/Copenhagen-climate-summit-1200-limos-140-private-planes-an= d-caviar-wedges.html

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Bob says:=20

December=20 9, 2009 at 3:49 pm

AL Gore=92s professor who gave him the idea on man-made global = warming turned=20 against the idea before he dies. Al said the old professor was losing = his=20 mind. Fact is the science is faulty and based upon bias data to = support=20 radical change in world economies. As always happens with the left = they have=20 an idea based upon lies and start calling people bad names, and then = make=20 threats against who opposes their views by wanting honest research and = answers. Now the truth may come out, but based upon what the MSM = covers and=20 the arrogance of the supporters of this hoax the truth is being = surprised, but=20 it will be told for certain. Most people are not as stupid as the left = thinks.=20 Soild research has been done and it will clearly show that man-made = global=20 warming is a scare tactic of the left to gain greater power.

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- American Citizen = says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 4:42 pm
  
  Those faux scientists ignored any data that did not fit in with = their=20 theories. There are far too many geological scientists who are = saying we are=20 actually in a cooling period. It all depends upon the sun as to how = warm or=20 cool we get. Man is not God and can do nothing to control nature. He = can=20 hold back flood water for even so long as New Orleans found out.
  
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Kirk says:=20

December=20 9, 2009 at 4:02 pm

Just finished shoving 19 inches of snow for myself my neighbor, my = mother,=20 my mother in law and dug & pushed out a stuck care with people = from 3=20 different generations all helping. Can=92t stand this global warming. = It will be=20 below 0 before morning and these are all facts.
Kirk

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Kirk says:=20

December=20 9, 2009 at 4:02 pm

Sorry I meant car.

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Kirk says:=20

December=20 9, 2009 at 4:13 pm

By the way I was shoveling not shoving. Must be too tired to write. = Also=20 I=92d like to add in 1969 the Dean of the college I attended gave an = entrance=20 speach in which he let us all know that the Oceans were 90% dead at = that time=20 and there would be no living creatures in the seas in 10 years. I saw = Whales=20 in Mexico 2 years ago. Must of really cleaned things up since=20 then.
Kirk

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- denniso says:
  
  December=20 11, 2009 at 10:13 pm
  
  Kirk=85you=92re right, we did take some action globally and clean = up some of=20 the crap out of the oceans=85though the they are still in dire = straights.=20 Concerned scientists raised the alarm yrs ago on ocean pollution and = over=20 fishing, so there was some progress in taking better care of the = oceans so=20 now,of course,they are not dead. Would you have preferred that we do = nothing=20 and see if we can actually kill the oceans off?? Fun little = experiment that=20 would be!!
  
  Reply
Chuck says:=20

December=20 9, 2009 at 4:20 pm

It=92s all about control and the implementation of their One World=20 Government. If you think that=92s a =93conspiracy theory,=94 reply in = 10 yrs.

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Kirk says:=20

December=20 9, 2009 at 4:25 pm

My point was they were wrong then and they=92re wrong now.

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Little Timmy says:

December=20 9, 2009 at 4:39 pm

The Bottom line is WE DON=92T KNOW!!
1. If it is really = warming
2. If=20 it is being caused by us
3. If we can make it stop
Hell=85 our = global=20 warming may be buying us a few extra years before the next ice age! We = don=92t=20 know!
We do know that people will mislead us, to benefit there own = agenda,=20 This I know absolutely, without doubt.

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- Mike says:=20
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 8:58 pm
  
  Dear Friend, I used to believe no one can exhaust a study on a = certain=20 topic, but I have found that out not to be true. When studying = science there=20 are steps and methods. When investigating a crime scene there is a = chain of=20 evidence to make the case. In technical writing there are numbered = steps so=20 the reader can deduce a logical decision.
  I have traveled to 45=20 countries. I have served in unique organizations in the military. I = was a=20 cop. I have multiple degrees. The more I have learned the more my = knowledge=20 has humbled me to the point of realizing I know so = little.
  However, when=20 studying languages and translations there can be little room for = error.=20 Sources are an absolute to convince logical truth to anyone. The = problem at=20 hand is that the evidence is not anywhere documented in the original = raw=20 data form for anyone else to consider. This is very disturbing, but = rest=20 assure people will deceive as you have considered in your comment. = But,=20 still, there is not original raw data to prove global warming.
  
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jazzcat says:

December=20 9, 2009 at 4:40 pm

No matter what we do or don=92t do, everything in the universe is = constantly=20 changing. No matter what. Takes me back to science class. This thing = is a=20 farce.

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Marilyn says:

December=20 9, 2009 at 4:47 pm

Global Warming is a hoax and I have said so from the first time = that I=20 heard about it! Why?
Because I took a lot of science classes in = high school=20 and college because I became a nurse,
and most of all because I am = a=20 healthy, still fairly sharp middle 70=92s person! CO2 is a = one
molecule=20 low-on-the-scale gas that makes it possible for all things green to = grow=20 and
flourish! It has NO relationship whatsoever to temperature, = PLEASE LOOK=20 IT UP! Also PLEASE
google Global Warming and read how the REAL = scientists=20 explain how there IS NO SUCH
THING! Also, reports from the Arctic = from real=20 scientists report that the ice is OVER 3 inches thick and that the = polar bears=20 are multiplying way beyond normal! The sky is NOT falling and
the = weather=20 will continue to BE as it always has! They are telling huge lies to = push this=20 idea to
enforce taxes that will further cause loss of jobs and = reducing us=20 to a 3d world country! The
name of the game is control! Look up = Hitler and=20 see how he started out controlling Germany!
Al Gore got into = trouble when=20 vice-president by taking money from Buddhists and the Clintons
had = to give=20 it to charity and called it a =93mistake!=94 He is a liar and a cheat, = has a house=20 that uses
more electricity than the small town down the road from = him, has=20 8 vehicles in his oversized
garage, and flies around in his = airplane that=20 is about the size of a C-47! He has made millions
out of his really = tall=20 stories about =93Global Warming!=94 Why in heaven=92s name would = anyone pay any=20 attention to him whatsoever??? The left-wing in this country has found = it an=20 easy tool to get what
they want and also by totally ignoring = millions of=20 objections from =93the people=94 for whom they are SUPPOSED TO BE = WORKING! Cap and=20 Trade may come into being prior to next year and if it does
at all, = it will=20 be the complete destruction of this wonderful FREE country that we = have all=20 known!
You may look up everything that I have said here and find it = documented!

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- jim says:=20
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 5:13 pm
  
  Hi Everybody, good news. Coppenhanen is a sucsess. I just came in = from=20 shoveling snow and I=92m freezing my tail off. A big = THANKYOU!!!!!!!
  
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  - Joe H. says:
    
    December=20 9, 2009 at 7:35 pm
    
    jim,
    It must be true!!! Cleveland is down to 20* tonight in = the=20 middle of December!!! Oh wait, that=92s where it usually is this = time of the=20 year!!!
    
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  - Disgusted says:
    
    December=20 10, 2009 at 2:31 pm
    
    Jim you are right. Here in Wisconsin we had one of the coolest = summers=20 on record. We just had a snow storm drop 14-16inches of snow on us = and the=20 high temperature for today was a whopping =96 are you ready for it = =96 9=20 degrees F. Man =96 that global warming is really effecting us here = in WI. I=20 might just wear my shorts to work tomorrow!
    
    Reply
    - eyeswideopen = says:
      
      December=20 10, 2009 at 6:39 pm
      
      Disguted, global warming doesn=92t mean that it gets warmer, = it means=20 exactly what you stated, the normal mean temps are higher or = lower than=20 the normal. Meaning, you are having cooler summers than you = normally do.=20 They are changing the name to climate change, because people = think that=20 it must be getting hotter in their own specific area. It is the = warming=20 of the poles, creating loss of glaciers at one pole and = increasing=20 glaciers at the other. Which will cause an increase of the water = levels.=20 This will also effect the temps of the oceans which causes the = temp=20 changes over the entire planet. I am reserving my opinion on if = man=92s=20 contribution is accelerating the change, but just reading = comments here=20 show that temps are not what is considered normal for each = poster=92s area=20 of the country.
      
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      - Claire says:
        
        December=20 10, 2009 at 7:03 pm
        
        Eyes=96I have to agree with you again. I have numerous = relatives and=20 friends in Wisconsin and they believe the climate has changed = and not=20 for the best.
- Curtis S says:
  
  December=20 9, 2009 at 10:20 pm
  
  Thank you Nurse Ratched!
  
  Reply
J C says:=20

December=20 9, 2009 at 5:50 pm

The Church of Global Warming is being exposed for the tool of = control that=20 it truly is. The goal of course is to tax us into the stone age and = empty our=20 pockets into the third world. The American middle class is under = attack by the=20 Globalist criminals and they=92d better get their act together quick = or else get=20 used to the term =93Kamrade=94.

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J H Sofa says:=20

December=20 9, 2009 at 6:20 pm

Very difficult to accept Global Warming.

Although, it would seem to be just plain common sense not to take a = crap in=20 one=92s water supply. Also, it is nice to walk into a casino with air = scrubbers.=20 I love some of the really good restaurants but hate to have to inhale=20 cigarette smoke on the way.

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uponroof says:

December=20 9, 2009 at 6:40 pm

JUST IN CASE ANYONE=92S WONDERING WHO=92S SHAPING U.S. POLICY IN = COPENHAGEN=85WHY=20 IT=92S JOHN P. HOLDREN SCIENCE CZAR=85 OBAMA=92S VERY OWN DR = STRANGELOVE.

WHO BUT AN ENEMY TO OUR COUNTRY=92S INTERESTS WOULD APPOINT THIS = LUNATIC!

=93=85Holdren is a globalist who has endorsed =93surrender of = sovereignty=94 to =93a=20 comprehensive Planetary Regime=94 that would control all the world=92s = resources,=20 direct global redistribution of wealth, oversee the = =93de-development=94 of the=20 West, control a World Army and taxation regime, and enforce world = population=20 limits. He has castigated the United States as =93the meanest of = wealthy=20 countries,=94 written a justification of compulsory abortion for = American women,=20 advocated drastically lowering the U.S. standard of living, and left = the door=20 open to trying global warming =93deniers=94 for crimes against = humanity. Such is=20 Barack Obama=92s idea of a clear-headed adviser on matters of = scientific=20 policy=85=94

YOU CAN=92T READ THIS RESUME AND NOT WONDER ABOUT THE DECISION = MAKING=20 =91SKILLS=92 OF OUR PRESIDENT. YES BUSH WAS DANGEROUS BUT HIS FAILINGS = WERE IN THE=20 NAME OF A STRONG USA. OBAMA IS 2X THE DANGER GIVEN HIS OPEN DISDAIN = FOR THIS=20 COUNTRY. HE IS ON A MISSION TO DISMANTLE OUR STRENGTH! GET OFF THE = POLITICAL=20 ONEUPSMANSHIP NONSENSE AND UNDERSTAND THIS VERY REAL DANGER. THE MEDIA = IS=20 TOWING THE LINE VIS A VIS FAILURE TO REPORT. THE TIME FOR OUTRAGE IS = NOW. MAY=20 GOD SAVE US FROM THOSE WE ELECT.

http://97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=3D34198

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Jim Schroff Sr. says:

December=20 9, 2009 at 8:14 pm

What ever happened to Global Freezing that we were going to go = through in=20 the early 1970=92s?? Utah, Navada and several other states were going = to have=20 300 days a year of rain. I guess no one could figure out how to make = billions=20 on freezing, but Glpbal Warming, now there=92s a money maker!!! (Since = Al Gore=20 can never get elected President)

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Jim says:=20

December=20 9, 2009 at 8:58 pm

I think iit is funny, Our president sucks up to a bunch of = socialists while=20 here at home we are in an icebox.

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Mike D says:=20

December=20 9, 2009 at 9:04 pm

This is yet another episode of the =93Socialist = Bum/Hippie-Ignoramus Club=94=20 takeover playing out in our world today.

Just make sure you remember ALL those who betrayed freedom and = trampled on=20 the constitution come this election year.

As Donald would say,=94YOUR FIRED!=94

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Brjll says:=20

December=20 9, 2009 at 9:26 pm

I wonder if anyone can explain to me how it is that cars and trucks = in the=20 United States causes the atmosphere on Mars as well as the Jovian = moons to=20 rise? Whenever there has been a measurable trend on the Earth, the=20 tempereature of the Sun, Mars and the moons of Jupiter also go up. = Could it be=20 that the warmth of Earth and Mars and the Jovian moons comes perhaps = from the=20 Sun and not the I. C. Engines?

Greenland was green when it was discovered. The Vikings had 23 = Colonoes=20 there UNTIL it started to get cold. The Earth=92s Temperature has = fluctuated=20 throughout history, IT HAS NEVER BEEN CONSTANT!! I remember hearing on = EARTH=20 DAY 1970 that if we did not stop using gas engines that the USA would = be under=20 20 feet of ice all the way down to Florida by the year 2,000. WHEN DID = THA=20 HAPPEN?

Warm air can carry more moisture than cold air. There are more = plants=20 growing during the warm decades than the cold decades. The # = =93Greenhouse Gas=94=20 is not CO2! It is H2O. Are we going to outlaw the use of water? Must = we cover=20 all of the lakes, rivers and oceans so that water cannot get into the = air and=20 kill us all? If Global Warming is still ongoing, WHY HAVE THE = TEMPERATURE BEEN=20 DECREASING SINCE 1998?

It is very egotistical to think that Man is the GREAT CONTROLLER of = the=20 UNIVERSE! The Prophet Ezekiel said it best, =94 Man cometh and Man = goeth, But=20 the Earth abideth.=94

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- denniso says:
  
  December=20 10, 2009 at 10:18 am
  
  Brjll=85what kind of name is that?? No, Greenland wasn=92t = =91green=92 when it=20 was discovered! They named it Greenland to encourage people to want = to go=20 there. Read=85
  
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  - DaveH says:
    
    December=20 10, 2009 at 10:27 am
    
    Do you ever make any supported statements? Post a link. Cite a=20 reference.
    =93The southern portion of Greenland (not covered by = glacier)=20 is indeed very green in the summer and was probably even greener = in Erik=92s=20 time during the Medieval Warm Period=94.
    From:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenland
    
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  - DaveH says:
    
    December=20 10, 2009 at 10:30 am
    
    Before you correct somebody, the least to could do is get your = facts=20 straight. You are undeservedly arrogant.
    
    Reply
  - libertytrain says:
    
    December=20 10, 2009 at 3:32 pm
    
    Denniso =96 What a rude question you asked of his name =96 is = yours somehow=20 better?
    
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Allan says:=20

December=20 10, 2009 at 4:03 am

My question is: What would it take for those of you who are sold on = catastrophic man-made global warming to seriously question your = position? A=20 certain number of Ph.D=92s who oppose it? The U.N. changing its = position?=20 President Obama changing his? Al Gore? Admission of fraud by = preeminent global=20 warming researchers? I would sincerely like to hear your = responses.

My comment: Those who think that businesspeople are more selfish = than=20 scientists, bureaucrats, environmentalists, or the media are deluding=20 themselves. Each contains those who seek advantages and empires. Each = is made=20 from the same raw material=85people. If you want to find the altruists = among=20 them, look for people who don=92t seek publicity for their good = deeds.

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- DaveH says:
  
  December=20 10, 2009 at 9:13 am
  
  Good comment Allan.
  
  Reply
- denniso says:
  
  December=20 10, 2009 at 10:15 am
  
  Allan=85you clearly don=92t know what science is,judging by your = comment.=20 Sure,human nature is involved in all things human..obvious!!That = doesnt mean=20 that all human endeavor is equally valid and good.Elementary,my = fellow=20 human.
  
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  - DaveH says:
    
    December=20 10, 2009 at 10:21 am
    
    Elementary? Is that the highest you got in school?
    
    Reply
  - American Citizen = says:
    
    December=20 10, 2009 at 10:42 am
    
    Dennis, people start up a business to earn a living. Other = people=20 invest in it to make money to earn a living. You must not have any = investments. If you do, why did you invest? if you don=92t, why = not? You=92ll=20 need supplemental income to SS when you retire, believe me.
    
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  - Allan says:
    
    December=20 11, 2009 at 1:08 am
    
    You clearly didn=92t answer my question.
    
    Reply
    - denniso says:
      
      December=20 11, 2009 at 9:59 pm
      
      Allan..here is my sincere answer to your question,=92what = would it take=20 to change my opinion on global warming=92? If most of the = scientists who=20 actually study the issue and work in the field changed their = conclusions=20 because of new evidence=85if all the scientific institutions = around the=20 world changed their position on warming..then I would defer to = them and=20 agree there is no warming. I=92m only a simple engineer,I = don=92t claim to=20 know all the science..I=92ve only read and paid attention to the = issue for=20 20 yrs. I happen to think that most climate scientists are = busting their=20 butts doing this work and actually know more than the lay people = who=20 think they know enough about it to condemn the science. It also = seems=20 very logical that we can=92t pour billions of tons of crap into = a=20 naturally balanced system over 250 yrs and have no adverse = effect. That=20 position defies all logic.
      
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DaveH says:=20

December=20 10, 2009 at 9:09 am

This is the direction our country is headed:
http://moneynews.newsmax.com/streettalk/Greek_Bankruptcy_E= uro/2009/12/09/296322.html?s=3Dal&promo_code=3D92F5-1

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- DaveH says:
  
  December=20 10, 2009 at 9:12 am
  
  Surprise, surprise =96 they are ranked 81 on the Economic Freedom = scale:
  http://www.heritage.org/index/Ranking.aspx
  
  This is where the Liberals want to take us with their dreams of = an=20 even-more regulated economy than we have now.
  
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  - eyeswideopen says:
    
    December=20 10, 2009 at 6:53 pm
    
    Daveh, if the Heritage Foundation, the Wash. Post, the Cato = Institute,=20 are all accurate and correct in their ideologies, why didn=92t = they predict=20 the horrible fiscal mess that we experienced from 2007 thru today? = Where=20 were these beacons of knowledge? Why weren=92t they beating the = Republican=20 door down to prevent this type of crash? Hindsight can make even = the=20 stupid appear smart, if they change their point of view to agree = with=20 history, claiming that was their stance the whole time. You = can=92t blame=20 the Dem=92s for the conservative think tanks not taking actions to = prevent=20 the debacle we are recovering from. Do you believe that the major = banks=20 should have not controls or rules to govern them? Do you believe = that the=20 market place should not have any rules either? How would any = investor be=20 protected from fraud and corruption?
    
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    - DaveH says:
      
      December=20 10, 2009 at 7:16 pm
      
      I knew the housing bubble was going to burst. Steve Forbes = knew it=20 was going to burst. I=92m betting that Cato, Reason, Mises, and = others=20 were warning that. You didn=92t even know about these = organizations before=20 my comments. How do you know what they warned about or didn=92t = warn=20 about?
      Are the Democrats heeding the shrill warnings about = the=20 Healthcare Bill, or the Cap and Trade Bill? NO.
      My own = daughter=20 didn=92t listen to my pleadings not to buy a house in 2006.
      
      Reply
- Rod James says:
  
  December=20 10, 2009 at 11:34 pm
  
  DaveH, Maybe total world bankruptcy would be a good thing as it = would be=20 an opportunity for us to invent a new system not based on fractional = banking. I don=92t mean a good thing that people will suffer from = this=20 financial melt down but there are other methods of currency systems = that=20 should be tried. The best example is a resource based economy that = would=20 allow the freedom of man kind to grow in areas of technology,energy=20 delvelopment science and culture. If you research The Venus=20 Foundation(producers of Zeitgeist) you will get a better idea of = what I am=20 talking about.There is not enough room here to relay the whole idea = and its=20 late and I have to get my beauty rest now.
  Please don=92t savage = me with a=20 sarchastic comment.
  
  Reply
DaveH says:=20

December=20 10, 2009 at 10:04 am

This is classic. Liberals at work:
http://www.troymedia.com/?p=3D6475

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- denniso says:
  
  December=20 10, 2009 at 10:12 am
  
  Get a job,or do something productive and positive for your=20 community,DaveH..
  
  Reply
  - DaveH says:
    
    December=20 10, 2009 at 10:19 am
    
    Donkey.
    
    Reply
    - Claire says:
      
      December=20 10, 2009 at 6:00 pm
      
      Well, I guess I am a donkey too since I believe there is = climate=20 change, a lot of our rivers and lakes are polluted, we have = raped the=20 earth in numerous locations, I could go on and on but then = someone would=20 call me a name worse than a donkey.
      I believe we should take = care of=20 our earth.
      
      Reply
      - eyeswideopen = says:
        
        December=20 10, 2009 at 7:14 pm
        
        Claire, let=92s both be jackasses and get on board the beat = down=20 train. I also believe that the way we have and are polluting = the earth=20 has to have some dramatic effects. We have problems keeping = our rivers=20 and lakes clean in Fl. as for years companies where allowed to = dump=20 chemicals and no restrictions or penalities were imposed. We = allowed=20 cattle and muck farmers to kill one of the larger lakes in the = Orlando=20 area. Fertilizer run off, along with manure killed a 64,000 = acre lake,=20 which now has deformed gators and birds after 20 years of = clean up.=20 Man treats the earth as though it is his own personal garbage = dump.=20 Just look at the trash along the highways and you can see that = Americans don=92t respect the beautiful country we have. The = last 20=20 years, we have become more alert to the hazards of polluting, = but we=20 are in denial that it could be effecting the climate. We have = a hard=20 time thinking beyond our own borders, and that others treat = the land=20 and water as badly as we do, which impacts the environment = sometimes=20 doing harm that cannot recover, even with time. The arguement = that=20 makes me think that Climate Change is occurring, is that 184 = nations=20 agree that something is happening. It is difficult to get the=20 Republicans to agree with the Dems on anything,in this Nation, = so the=20 fact that 184 nations agree with each other is pretty = impressive. I am=20 reading a little each day, trying to absorb the data and = examples.
      - DaveH says:
        
        December=20 10, 2009 at 7:21 pm
        
        Claire,
        I call Denniso a Donkey because he is a nasty=20 trouble-maker most of whose comments include ridicule, = name-calling,=20 condescension, or some other annoying tactics. Not for his=20 beliefs.
      - DaveH says:
        
        December=20 10, 2009 at 7:24 pm
        
        Eyes,
        It is a well-known fact that the cleanest = countries are=20 the wealthiest countries. If you truly do want to preserve our = clean=20 environments then you need to start learning about the = impoverishment=20 that the alarmist Democrats are going to create.
      - Claire says:
        
        December=20 10, 2009 at 7:51 pm
        
        Here in my town, you don=92t dare eat the fish in our lake. = It is so=20 polluted. We have battled e-coli, and then when people swam in = the=20 lake, they got legionaires disease. There are a lot of clubs = on the=20 lake, we went to a party at one of the clubs once, we were on = a=20 pontoon boat, people were drunk, they urinated and defecated = in the=20 water. I was so mad, we left and we never went back. I realize = that=20 not all people act like this, but these people were nuts. I = cannot=20 believe people do not have respect for our lakes, rivers, = oceans. I=20 cannot believe that some people do not treasure this wonderful = land=20 that God gave us.
      - denniso says:
        
        December=20 11, 2009 at 9:44 pm
        
        Eyes and Claire=85both good,thoughtful comments. It does = amaze me=20 that there are people who don=92t seem to be concerned at all = about how=20 we have treated the planet for the past 250 yrs and are still = abusing=20 every day. Even if global warming doesn=92t present future = disaster for=20 the world,doesn=92t it make sense to err on the side of = caution now and=20 take prudent steps like conservation and greener energy,rather = than=20 waiting until we are 100% positive and possibly suffering huge = consequences? That seems like real conservatism to me.
    - Rod James says:
      
      December=20 10, 2009 at 11:36 pm
      
      DaveH, Don=92t let Donkey suck you down to his level of = maturity your=20 too smart for that.
      
      Reply
      - denniso says:
        
        December=20 11, 2009 at 9:45 pm
        
        Really?? Is he??
DaveH says:=20

December=20 10, 2009 at 10:20 am

The next Al Gore? Poor California:
http://www.climatechange.ca.gov/visualization/index.html

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George says:

December=20 10, 2009 at 10:33 am

1. Global warming and cooling have occurred since creation. The = biggest=20 culprits are the sun, the earth=92s wobble, volcanic eruptions and = perhaps the=20 ocean. One major volcanic eruption causes more pollution than all of = mankind=92s=20 historical actions. So, yes, mankind=92s causing global warming is a=20 hoax.
But that doesn=92t mean we should ruin our environment with = unneeded=20 pollution. It is a fact that we have polluted our air and water which = results=20 is all kind of disease. That pollution could eventually kill off most = life and=20 global warming would become a moot problem.
2. That 2000 year = document=20 isn=92t quite that old (in print), but includes a much longer time = span. Some of=20 it is basically the history of the Hebrew people (as well as Arab = people). The=20 part of the document that is called the New Testament describes = events, many=20 of which have been scientifically historically verified. There is no = longer=20 any question about the man, Jesus of Nazareth, being an actual = historical=20 figure. His closest followers (Apostles) were not gung-ho advocates of = the=20 religion he preached after his death and resurrection even though they = ate and=20 conversed with the resurrected Christ. They were frightened men who = tried to=20 hide from society until the Holy Spirit descended on them. They were=20 transformed into a dynamic force that changed history and the Biblical = writtings are somewhat flawed recordings of those events. But the = flaws do not=20 diminish their importance and the truth they contain.
3. Creation = was an=20 occurance for which NO ONE has a scientifically proven answer. The = most=20 knowledgeable scientist has no clue as to how it happened. Before the=20 beginning there was nothing =96 no matter or energy =96 I know that = sounds=20 impossible, but realize that is where the true beginning had to = be.
Since=20 nothing preceeded something, everyone has to make a leap of faith to = whatever=20 explanation of creation they accept. The scients make the leap of = faith that=20 matter and energy was pre-existant. The athiest makes the same leap of = faith=20 because they do not want to admit the supernatual exists. The person = of faith=20 makes the leap of faith that God existed and brougt it all into being. = There=20 is simply no way anyone will ever answer that question on this side of = death.=20 As some famous historical philosopher said centries ago, =93Because I = am, God=20 is.=94 So, the person who glibly dismisses a higher power is simply = not thinking=20 or wants nothing to do with the supernatural and the moral and ethical = order=20 any true God demands.

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dell says:=20

December=20 10, 2009 at 11:21 am

People one good volcanic eruption will release more co2 than the US = will=20 produce in a year. Lets see you stop one of them

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hunter says:=20

December=20 10, 2009 at 1:53 pm

600 years ago the scientists were having people tortured and killed = that=20 thought the earth was round. Only 150 years ago doctors were putting = leeches=20 on people and bleeding them to let out the =91bad blood=92 this was = taught in the=20 universities at the time. These modern day scientists are so inbred = (being=20 taught by the polly parrot style ed) and stirred up by the greedy, = depressed,=20 hateful, spiteful, revengful fat,overbearing, sour grapes politicians = they are=20 like Charles Manson on steroids. The climate is always changing. It = has always=20 changed. It will always continue to change. Get the hell over it, take = up a=20 hobby do somethin like basket weaving, they should see their doctor = about=20 upping dosage, get a life! I sure the hell am glad I didn=92t waste my = money and=20 years of my life on no shit college to get my brain raped by no inbred = professor burned out on dope.

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- denniso says:
  
  December=20 11, 2009 at 12:07 am
  
  Hunter, I hate to tell you this,but it sounds and looks like = college=20 could have helped you. You could have learned some history = there=85like the=20 fact that it was the church aided by conpliant gov=92ts that = tortured=20 scientists for writing or teaching what was considered heresy = against church=20 policy. For instance,that the earth goes around the sun. Scientists = don=92t=20 torture anyone.
  
  Reply
  - DaveH says:
    
    December=20 11, 2009 at 8:16 am
    
    You don=92t have a clue what went on back then (neither do I). = All we=20 have are history books compiled by people, some of whom had axes = to grind.=20 You honestly don=92t think there were people in those days who = considered=20 themselves scientists, yet believed the earth was flat?
    
    And your statement =93the church aided by conpliant gov=92ts=94 = has it=20 backward. The church aided the government to placate the = population.=20 Government =93Scientists=94 fill that role in modern times.
    
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    - coal miner says:
      
      December=20 11, 2009 at 6:10 pm
      
      DaveH,
      
      What about Galileo,Coperincus and other scientist?They were = victims=20 of the The Church Inquistion.It wasn=92t too long ago the Roman = Catholic=20 Church admitted they wrong Galileo.
      
      Reply
      - American = Citizen says:
        
        December=20 12, 2009 at 4:40 pm
        
        Science builds on science, thus proving some theories = wrong.
- coal miner says:
  
  December=20 11, 2009 at 5:29 pm
  
  Hunter,
  
  It was the religions not the scienbtist,they were the = victims.
  
  Reply
DaveH says:=20

December=20 10, 2009 at 2:23 pm

This shouldn=92t surprise most of you. Global Warming brings=20 prosperity:
http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/solar-activity-th= e-primary-driver-of-global-temperature-rise-2008-10-17

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Claire says:=20

December=20 10, 2009 at 6:02 pm

Geez, if I have learned anything from this site, it is the fact = that if=20 people do not agree with each other, they freak out.

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- eyeswideopen says:
  
  December=20 10, 2009 at 7:20 pm
  
  Claire, laughing out loud, girl you certainly nailed it. It used = to be=20 that differing opinions were welcomed to any discussion, as they = made you=20 think and sometimes you actually changed your point of view. Brow = beating=20 people doesn=92t achieve anything except resistance. The = Conservative right=20 doesn=92t allow for free thinkers and conformation is required. = Talking points=20 have taken over the party.
  
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  - Claire says:
    
    December=20 10, 2009 at 7:34 pm
    
    Eyes=96I know!! The more people rant and rave, the less a = person wants to=20 vote for their party! A person doesn=92t want to go anywhere near = them! I=20 appreciate differing opinions. And yes, sometimes it does change a = point=20 of view. At this point in time, I am certainly steering clear of = the=20 Republican and Democratic parties.
    
    Reply
  - DaveH says:
    
    December=20 11, 2009 at 8:34 am
    
    Eyeswide,
    Don=92t act so innocent. You haven=92t been. I = can=92t deny that=20 you are capable of turning over a new leaf. Good for you if you=20 have.
    As far as conservatives not allowing free thinkers =96 = the Liberals=20 are much worse. They give lip-service to open minds, but get ready = for the=20 intense social pressure if you dare to say things contrary to = their=20 beliefs. I might add that human beings in general are resistant to = hearing=20 things that are contrary to their own belief systems.
    
    Reply
Claire says:=20

December=20 10, 2009 at 8:35 pm

Regarding global warming=96one thing for sure is that some of us = may find out=20 all about global warming when Jesus comes, and the world as we know it = ends.=20 It may get a little hot.

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- DaveH says:
  
  December=20 10, 2009 at 10:07 pm
  
  Claire,
  If you want to learn, pick up one of these books at = the=20 Library:
  =93Climate of Extremes: Global Warming Science They = Don=92t Want You=20 to Know=94 by Patrick Michaels and Robert Balling.
  Or
  =93The = Politically=20 Incorrect Guide to Global Warming=94 by Christopher Horner.
  
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  - Claire says:
    
    December=20 10, 2009 at 10:29 pm
    
    I will do this. I have to go to the Library Saturday to return = some=20 books. I will try to get them then.
    
    Reply
    - denniso says:
      
      December=20 11, 2009 at 12:12 am
      
      Claire=85beware,there is propoganda out there and there is = science and=20 then opinion. Be sure you know what it is you read. The most = effective=20 propoganda often sounds the most true,though it=92s not.
      
      Reply
      - Claire says:
        
        December=20 11, 2009 at 5:42 am
        
        You can bet I watch what I read. I always form my own = opinion about=20 things. But the more knowledge a person has, the better off we = are.=20 And right now, Denniso, I have problems with both parties.
      - DaveH says:
        
        December=20 11, 2009 at 8:20 am
        
        Yes, especially watch out for that propaganda that = =93sounds the most=20 true=94. Instead you should listen to that which doesn=92t = make sense like=20 the propaganda Denniso spews.
Claire says:=20

December=20 10, 2009 at 10:45 pm

Earlier this evening, I made the comment that I did not approve of = killing=20 animals for the fun of it. It made me think about something that = happened=20 years ago near Chicago. We were on the interstate, traffic was going = rather=20 slow. A deer came from out of nowhere and a lady hit the deer, and = several=20 other cars hit it too. It died of course, and the lady that hit it = first, got=20 out of her car, ran to the deer and held its head in her arms! The = lady cried=20 and cried. A picture of this lady holding the deer and crying was in = the=20 newspapers. I will never forget this.

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- denniso says:
  
  December=20 11, 2009 at 12:14 am
  
  Claire, i=92ve heard similar stories,always sad. If anything is = innocent=20 and helpless before man,it=92s animals.
  
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  - Claire says:
    
    December=20 11, 2009 at 6:19 am
    
    Animals are at our mercy for the most part. The dangerous ones = you just=20 don=92t mess with. You stay away from them. I think I go a little = overboard=20 concerning animals at times. I try to analyze why and I think I = found the=20 answer. Even though I loved my Mother dearly and she was a = terrific=20 person, she did not have a good relationship with my stepfather. I = can=20 remember when my stepfather would get drunk, he would come home = and the=20 fighting would begin. I would sit on top of the hill behind our = house=20 until the fighting stopped, and guess who my best friend was? = Brownie, my=20 dog. He was my comfort. He stood by me through thick and thin. = When it was=20 bad weather, I would sit in an old shed with Brownie and go back = into the=20 house when =93it was safe.=94 Back then I had made up my mind I = would never=20 live like that and I haven=92t. My husband is good to me, he is = kind,=20 patient, and a very nice person. Sometimes I don=92t see why he = has put up=20 with me all these years. I am fortunate. And I still and always = will have=20 a soft spot in my heart for animals.
    
    Reply
    - DaveH says:
      
      December=20 11, 2009 at 8:25 am
      
      Claire,
      Those kind of experiences are all to common. Sorry = you had=20 to suffer that. One of my girlfriends was repeatedly molested by = her=20 real dad (who was also an alcoholic). She has had emotional = problems her=20 whole life as a result. Sad.
      
      Reply
      - Claire says:
        
        December=20 11, 2009 at 12:56 pm
        
        Our stepfather was not mean to us three girls. Thank God!!! = In fact=20 he ignored us. It was like we weren=92t even there. He = concentrated on=20 bullying my Mother. She had 3 girls to feed, and I believe = this is why=20 she stayed with him. Finally she left him, we went back to = Wisconsin.=20 I remember leaving the farm house, our neighbor took us to the = bus=20 depot. Brownie was running behind the car, and I was screaming = and=20 crying. I was about 6 years old at the time. We dumped him. I = know=20 this is silly but it really hurt me, I betrayed my best = friend.
        On=20 a better note=96I have a good life. I cannot complain now. A = person has=20 choices- and I made a choice years and years ago that I would = never=20 live in a situation like my Mother did. She did not deserve = the havoc=20 she went through.
    - denniso says:
      
      December=20 11, 2009 at 7:29 pm
      
      Claire=85most of the world,including us,treats most animals=20 terribly=85it=92s a universal tragedy and if we ever evolve to a = higher=20 level of civilization, people will look back in horror at the = ongoing=20 hollocaust. I don=92t think Jesus would approve.
      
      Reply
      - Claire says:
        
        December=20 11, 2009 at 8:30 pm
        
        A few weeks ago, India had some sort of celebration and = they were=20 sacrificing 200,000 animals. It was in the newpaper.
    - denniso says:
      
      December=20 11, 2009 at 9:27 pm
      
      Claire=85It=92s not surprising that anyone has a problem w/ = both or all=20 parties=85our country is a mess and unfortunately major issues = like global=20 warming or healthcare or war and peace have been made into = political=20 issues by people w/ vested interests and that=92s a tragedy.
      
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American Citizen says:

December=20 10, 2009 at 11:17 pm

The only reason man should kill an animal is for food or if the = animal=20 poses a danger such as rabies.

Global warming is not the same thing as pollution of our rivers and = lakes.=20 I agree people need to be educated about that.

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Rod James says:

December=20 10, 2009 at 11:50 pm

I don=92t know if there is Man Made Global Warming or it=92s = Natural=20 Fluctuations in Nature but I have a concern about all the bickering = and no=20 action. I am reminded of the Atlantic region in the not too distant = past and=20 the collapse of the fisheries in that region. Experts and scientists = on both=20 sides argued about the diminishing catches for years weather it was = Natural=20 Fluctuations or Over Fishing. Then all of a sudden no more cod. The = end of=20 employment for many in the industry, moving from your home to find=20 work,financial burdens on families and government and suicide. I hope = we don=92t=20 get some kind of rude awakening on this (other than Copenhagen Carbon=20 Taxes)

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- DaveH says:
  
  December=20 11, 2009 at 8:40 am
  
  Rod, I thank goodness for all the =93bickering and no action=94. = If not for=20 that, we would be even closer to tyranny in this country. That is = why=20 individual freedom is so important. One size does not fit all. And = it never=20 will. Under Limited Government, people would decide their own = courses in=20 life, and there would be a lot less turmoil in society.
  
  Reply
  - Rod James says:
    
    December=20 11, 2009 at 1:38 pm
    
    DaveH, It doesn=92t look like your Limited Government will = happen=20 soon.
    Doesn=92t every now have the freedom to live their own = life and=20 decide their own course in life? Thank goodness for the freedom to = bicker=20 but don=92t you think something has to be done by humanity to = clean up this=20 mud ball we live on and prevent more and worse pollution from = damaging our=20 environment?
    
    Reply
    - denniso says:
      
      December=20 11, 2009 at 7:24 pm
      
      DaveH wants a gov=92t so small that it has no power to do = anything=20 except fund the police and military. He thinks that corporations = left to=20 their =91free market=92 system will be good and moral citizens = and not harm=20 anyone w/ toxins,poisons or deadly products. DaveH believes in = =91pie in=20 the sky=92.
      
      Reply
      - DaveH says:
        
        December=20 11, 2009 at 9:14 pm
        
        Don=92t even pretend to speak for me Donkey. You haven=92t = got the=20 slightest clue what freedom entails.
        Someone so naive that = he=20 doesn=92t realize evil has no boundaries shouldn=92t be = ridiculing=20 others.
      - denniso says:
        
        December=20 11, 2009 at 9:31 pm
        
        DaveH=85rather than get huffy,why not tell us how large a = gov=92t you=20 want and what,specifically,you think gov=92t should do?
      - DaveH says:
        
        December=20 12, 2009 at 8:22 am
        
        Us? Like you represent anything other than a small = percentage of=20 zealots who think ridicule and unfounded statements are a sign = of=20 intelligence? For people who have open minds and want to = really learn=20 (not you Denniso) here is an example of free enterprise at = work:
        http://reason.org/news/show/let-the-free-market-rule
      - American = Citizen says:
        
        December=20 12, 2009 at 4:36 pm
        
        The Federal Government is taking over states=92 rights, = just as the=20 czars are now taking over the powers of Congress. I=92m tired = of the=20 Feds telling us what=92s good for us.
      - denniso says:
        
        December=20 12, 2009 at 11:58 pm
        
        Did you complain about the feds under Bush or Reagan??Just=20 wondering. You think the feds have all of a sudden gained more = power=20 over your life in just 10 months?? Are you enslaved = already?
- American Citizen = says:
  
  December=20 12, 2009 at 4:38 pm
  
  Cod must be flourishing somewhere as there is an awful lot of it = in the=20 stores and on restaurant menus.
  
  Reply
  - Rod James says:
    
    December=20 12, 2009 at 11:46 pm
    
    Thirty years of a fishing ban can bring a species back but not = the lost=20 livleyhoods,money and lives of the people originally affected.
    
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Nick says:=20

December=20 11, 2009 at 12:17 am

Exactly no one is denting climate change. As Sally said The = question is it=20 man made. I am sure there is no doubt everyone realizes that burnign = of all=20 the fuels and waste are doing harm. Its just how fast do you think we = can=20 destory the earth 130 plus years i dont think so.

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- Nick says:=20
  
  December=20 11, 2009 at 12:19 am
  
  And say global warming is real does that constitute governments = to take=20 away freedoms and TAX us even more???
  
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Billy Ray says:

December=20 11, 2009 at 1:09 am

I don=92t know what is causing climate change. I was a boy during = the Dust=20 Bowl. That wasn=92t from carbon emissions.

Sometimes the climate simply does change.

Science is not exact, but you don=92t see Emails from Darwinists = saying that=20 the Intellignt Design people should be shut-up and cut out of the = loop. They=20 don=92t do that because their arguments are overwhelming.

I don=92t thing the global warming is the least bit overwhelming, = at least=20 not yet. But politicans know it is good to be Green.

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Marcio=20 Bontempo says:

December=20 11, 2009 at 1:31 pm

Oh! So, the melting of the poles is an ilusion=85.

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- DaveH says:
  
  December=20 11, 2009 at 9:19 pm
  
  Yes, the ice at the poles melt, in the summer. Duh. For every = glacier=20 that is receeding there are others that are growing. The dreaded = warming has=20 mainly been occuring in the Northern Hemisphere. I guess the = =93greenhouse=20 gases=94 don=92t diffuse to the Southern Hemisphere.
  
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  - denniso says:
    
    December=20 11, 2009 at 11:02 pm
    
    DaveH=85that=92s some exquisite scientific treatise you=92ve = labored=20 over.Though you accidentally hit on something right=85the northern = and=20 southern atmosphere don=92t mix quickly and most of the greenhouse = gas=20 emissions do happen to be in the northern hemisphere. Time is one = of the=20 functions in the complex relationship of climate science=85pretty = magical,=20 this science stuff, isn=92t it DaveH??
    
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    - DaveH says:
      
      December=20 12, 2009 at 8:31 am
      
      Oh yeah, a Donkey wants to make an intelligent debate. Ok, = Donkey,=20 tell me what keeps molecules from diffusing freely throughout = the=20 Northern and Southern atmospheres?
      And you don=92t know = anything about=20 science. You would have fit in quite well in the Dark Ages where = flapping lips passed as knowledge. I rarely see you make any = statements=20 that come even close to factual. Mostly your comments are like = those an=20 adolescent might make to get attention.
      
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      - DaveH says:
        
        December=20 12, 2009 at 9:05 am
        
        And for anyone who truly wants to get an education, read = this=20 article. I=92m not talking about Denniso, who would rather = pretend to be=20 knowledgeable and intelligent.
        http://www.cato.org/pubs/handbook/hb111/index.html
        =
G.W says:=20

December=20 11, 2009 at 5:58 pm

Just one question, is climate involved in the creation of a single = world=20 goverment?

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- DaveH says:
  
  December=20 11, 2009 at 9:20 pm
  
  That is the main goal.
  
  Reply
- denniso says:
  
  December=20 11, 2009 at 10:54 pm
  
  DaveH and others are just paranoid=85there never has been and = never will be=20 any =91one world gov=92t=92. You people hate the U.N. You have = accused it in yrs=20 past of being the beginning of =91one world gov=92t=92. Then you = turn around and=20 say that the U.N. is worthless and impotent. SO, how in hell could = any one=20 world gov=92t ever actually control the world? This is such an = absurdity and=20 so ridiculous that it=92s laughable. The idea is put out there as a = scare=20 tatic to benefit a political view. Ignore it and think for = yourself!
  
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  - Rod James says:
    
    December=20 12, 2009 at 1:40 am
    
    Denniso, One world gov was preposed by bankers (Rockefller = started the=20 UN by the way). Bankers already control the world money supply and = with=20 that they have more power than you think (don=92t you?).You are = the one that=20 is ridiculously absurd and laughable!
    OK now you can call call = me some=20 bad names like you do to others who don=92t hold your point of = view!!
    
    Reply
    - denniso says:
      
      December=20 12, 2009 at 11:54 pm
      
      Calling someone paranoid is not calling them names. It is a = real=20 psychological condition. I said the idea that there will be a = one world=20 gov=92t is laughable and ridiculous..that is not calling people = names.=20 That is calling a position or thought ridiculous. That is fair=20 game,especially when people are spouting pure nonsense. Bankers = have=20 controlled many aspects of life for decades..it=92s not new and = has=20 absolutely NOTHING to do w/ Obama or liberals. Most bankers are = in fact,=20 repubs.
      
      Reply
  - DaveH says:
    
    December=20 12, 2009 at 8:47 am
    
    Denniso,
    What are =93ridiculous and laughable=94 are your = ignorant=20 pronouncements, The Federal Government is also mostly ineffective = (in=20 accomplishing the things they promise) yet they drain our = financial=20 resources and control the lives of the people who aren=92t = scofflaws. The=20 criminals don=92t care about laws, that=92s why they=92re called = Criminals. Only=20 the good people get saddled with the laws which are supposedly = bettering=20 society.
    So ineffectiveness does not mean we should turn a = blind eye to=20 the growth of the United Nations. We would be ignorant to do so. = We would=20 be like Denniso.
    
    Reply
    - American Citizen = says:
      
      December=20 12, 2009 at 4:30 pm
      
      As Glenn said last evening, Congress is now passe as the = czars are=20 making the laws and rules. He talked last evening as to how the = water=20 czar wants to control all water, not just navigable waters. As = he said,=20 the only thing they won=92t regulate is your bird bath.
      
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LARRY S. says:

December=20 11, 2009 at 11:21 pm

I have questions, one, what is the ideal temperature for the=20 planet?
Two, what are the benefits of global warming?
Three, = what are=20 the benefits of having an ice age set in on us?
Four, how is it = that the=20 USA had the coolest summer in over a 100 years while the rest of the = planet is=20 warming?
Five, I go sailing in the Caribbean and the place where we = dock=20 has not
had a rise in sea level, yet, some places claim they have = already=20 experienced rising sea levels?
Six, if a liberal is in favor of = killing=20 babies, why is he not in favor of committing suicide as a good patriot = of the=20 planet?
I have more, but let=92s see if I get some answers to = these.

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- DaveH says:
  
  December=20 12, 2009 at 8:53 am
  
  Larry,
  I=92m sure you know this, but Global Cooling would be = much more=20 catasthropic than Global Warming. In fact, the radicals started out = with=20 Global Cooling Alarmism in the 60s and 70s, but nature would not = cooperate,=20 so they had to switch to the Global Warming Mantra.
  The dangers = of=20 Warming are just a means to their true goal of power and = control.
  
  Reply
  - denniso says:
    
    December=20 12, 2009 at 11:48 pm
    
    Larry, too silly to waste time on. Sorry.
    
    Reply
- jim says:=20
  
  December=20 12, 2009 at 10:14 am
  
  Hi Larry, I have question 7. How do these carbon offsets that Al = Gore=20 wants to sell us work? I bought 5 million calory offsets and I=92m = still=20 fat.
  
  Reply
- American Citizen = says:
  
  December=20 12, 2009 at 4:26 pm
  
  You know you=92ll never get an answer from Dems or Liberals as = the answers=20 don=92t fit with their agenda.
  
  Reply
American Soldier says:

December=20 12, 2009 at 2:08 pm

we will all see soon enough. the NWO is using climate concers to = implement=20 a glowbal ONE CHILD policy. and a global government for enforcement of = that=20 and NEW TAXES on EVERYTHING that produce CO2=85which plants resperate = by the=20 way. see you on the train to the FEMA camps.. Dummies

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American Soldier says:

December=20 12, 2009 at 2:10 pm

BAA BAA BAA shepeople.

Reply
- denniso says:
  
  December=20 12, 2009 at 11:45 pm
  
  Paranoid and off the wall!!
  
  Reply
Stan = B=20 says:

December=20 13, 2009 at 5:46 pm

If you believe that Al GORE did not deserve the =91NOBEL PEACE = Prize=92 then=20 look up IRENA SENDLER and read her story.

The CFR will not allow Al Gore to humiliate himself by accepting = the=20 challenge from Lord Christopher Monckton to debate The Global Warming = theory=20 on national television.

Pull up the videos of the =911998 Bush Rally=92 at the Du Ponte = facility in=20 Texas. Alex Jones was arrested for asking (the then) Govenor G.W.Bush = =94 what=20 do you have to say about the CFR and the FEDERAL RESERVE, they are the = real=20 problems the nation is facing!=94 Bush was
speechless, turned to = the side and=20 nodded to security.
Although Alex Jones sometimes comes across as a = little=20 coarse or boisterous, his questions were civil and without colorful = metaphors.=20 Once more I say=85. the CFR controls Government. Do the research.

My thanks go to Personal Liberty Digest for having the courage to = allow=20 these articles to remain posted. I have encountered several = =91comments=92=20 deletions from other Internet entities for addressing similar = issues.

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DaveH says:=20

December=20 15, 2009 at 5:07 pm

Government Science at work:
http://reason.com/archives/2004/03/03/political-science

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Thomas Anthony says:

December=20 16, 2009 at 1:40 pm

Jacques Yves Cousteau researched Ocean Warming years ago. He = claimed that=20 if the ocean WITHHELD only one degree of heat from the sun each day, = then in=20 thirty days our oceans would be 30 degrees warmer. But then it would=20 accelerate due to the dying off of the plankton, which would form a = scum on=20 the surface. This scum acting like an insulating blanket, would help = hold even=20 more heat, which would cause a further plankton death, and so on. In = less than=20 6 months our oceans would be over the boiling point of 212 degrees. = BUT GUESS=20 WHAT? It hasn=92t happened. Because of cool evenings and ocean breezes = give off=20 every degree of heat each and every day=85 in accordance with the = latitude and=20 seasonal changes. So I highly reccommend that every idiot who reads = these=20 words, pop your head out of your butt, and smell the coffee.

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W. H. Martin says:

December=20 22, 2009 at 7:15 pm

First, it would be nice if all those in this conversation could = start=20 acting like adults and stop the name-calling of anyone who disagrees = with you.=20 (If we were all sitting around a table, especially if we were all = armed, would=20 we find it easier to be civil?)
What do we know about the causes of = climate? As pointed out by the retired earth scientist, there are a = number of=20 influences; they are exceedingly complex and there are numerous = feedback loops=20 impossible to calculate. There are orbital influences (angle of tilt, = wobble=20 that produces precession of the equinoxes, and shape of the orbit) = coupled=20 with the solar cycles, all of which can be calculated (Milankovitch = cycles).=20 The wildcard is the atmosphere. Nobody really knows what the result of = increasing levels of carbon dioxide and other gases from either = burning of=20 fossil fuels or from volcanoes will be. The great majority of climate=20 scientists believe that changing the composition of the atmosphere = will affect=20 the climate. A small percentage of climate scientists disagree. Of = those who=20 believe in man-influenced or volcano-influenced atmospheric changes, = the=20 majority believe that these gases will hold in heat and cause global = warming.=20 This is the well-known =93greenhouse effect=94. A minority believe = that an=20 increase in these gases will cause a global cooling by a process known = as=20 =93dimming=94 in which the gases prevent sunlight from reaching = earth=92s=20 surface.
The idea that there is a conspiracy among climate = scientists is=20 just silly and paranoid. A climate scientist would have just as much=20 incentive, and probably more, if he could prove that the burning of = fossil=20 fuels will not influence climate. Coal companies would be falling over = each=20 other to hire him.
The earth has been going through climate change = since=20 its beginning. Climate reconstructions based on ice cores suggest that = the=20 earth has enjoyed unusually mild and stable conditions the past 10,000 = years=20 or so, compared to the balance of the 800 thousand years represented = by these=20 ice cores. Civilization arose during the past 10 thousand years and = population=20 increased from maybe a million or so, to 3 thousand times that amount. = The=20 climate will change. Any change in the climate is going to be disaster = for a=20 lot of people and probably a boon for a few. Is there anything that = humans=20 could do to prevent or stall climate change? We will probably never = find that=20 out. The bickering and name-calling we see here suggests there will = never be=20 enough agreement to even attempt any change. Nobody and no nation = wants to=20 give up anything. Who will volunteer first to shiver in the dark?

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Isirio Abelon says:

January=20 26, 2010 at 9:01 am

WHY CAN=92T WE ALL GET ALONG?

Stop quacking like a duck. FIND A SOLUTIONS!!!, Conservatives are = doing=20 their parts, how about the liberals.

Questions to you Liberals or to you rich people who is for this = Global=20 warming agony/hoax.

1. Are you willing to give up your Jet plane, and use a paddle boat = to=20 travel from one place to another?

2. Are you willing to give up your SUV(s), Car(s), and
use = bicycle, or=20 cart pulled by Animals or Horse ride to travel?

3. Are you willing to give up your Mansion,TV,AC,Water heater,radio = and=20 live like a Caveman and use candles for lighting (remember you can not = use=20 oil, it cause pollution), Use a monkeys to fan you for comfort while = you are=20 eating or sleeping?.

IF YOUR ANSWER TO ALL OF THESE BASIC QUESTIONS MENTION ABOVE IS YES = .=20 GREAT=85 WE WANT MR. AL GORE TO SET AN EXAMPLE FOR US TO FOLLOW AND = START TODAY.=20

OR WE ALL JUST SHUT UP AND, UNITE, FIND A SOLUTIONS; YOU KNOW AND I = KNOW=20 THAT NONE OF US WOULDN=92T WANT TO GIVE UP ALL THESE LUXURIES THAT WE = ARE=20 ENJOYING TODAY. (NOT THE RICH PEOPLE ANYWAY).

EDUCATE PEOPLE TO BE MORE CONSERVATIVE, EXPAND THE RECYCLE = BUSINESS, DRIVE=20 LESS, ETC=85

IF WE ALL BE CONSERVATIVES, WE CAN LIVE TOGETHER HAPPILY. AMEN.=20 ADIOS.
ISIRIO

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Anton Koroch says:=20

February=20 16, 2010 at 3:21 pm

Hello just thought i would tell you something.. This is twice now = i=92ve=20 landed on your blog in the last 3 days looking for completely = unrelated=20 things. Spooky or what?

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